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Athelwulf (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:25 AM Original message |
BRAINSTORM: Refute some arguments against marriage equality |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. How about this: Dad, Shut The Fuck Up |
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Athelwulf (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I'd like to do better than that... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Sorry, this stuff just drives me up the wall |
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Athelwulf (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I totally understand |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
2. Okay, as far as "consummation laws" go |
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Athelwulf (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. He wasn't arguing that a marriage had to produce children |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Ask Dad this: |
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Athelwulf (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Yes! :D |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Very few states have a consummation requirement. |
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Athelwulf (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Where might I look for legal info on consummation? NT. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Here's a checklist from WestLaw. |
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Athelwulf (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:33 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I just looked at Wikipedia... |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:39 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I think that means that it can be annulled for that reason, not that it is annulled for |
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Athelwulf (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:49 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I know that. Isn't that what I said? NT. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:47 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. It appears the answer rests upon the distinction between common law and ceremonial marriages: |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 10:22 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. You are now conflating two types of marriage: civil and religious. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Here is what I found |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 03:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. oh lowerd! no citation because there is no citation |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. How'd you look? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:49 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I did a 50 State Survey search and found a Proof of Facts. nt. |
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Singular73 (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
4. Marriage is a religious ceremony. |
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Athelwulf (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:47 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. And some churches are willing to marry gays |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
21. And? |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-19-06 06:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. There are plenty of churches that would preside over same-sex weddings |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 09:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
30. Bullshit |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
6. I'm just a dumb country hick from appalachia |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
9. Ok well here are a few points: |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
12. The first one I get but the second is a bit odd. |
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Athelwulf (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 01:00 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Very good point |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-15-06 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
27. point by point |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-20-06 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
31. Here is what a long-time equal marriage advocate says |
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