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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:52 PM
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Fire, brimstone the surest way to say you're gay
Allow me to share with you an epiphany. I think Fred Phelps is gay.

Not that I'd have any way to know for sure, and not that there's anything wrong with that. But it seems obvious to me that Freddie has spent a little time up on Brokeback Mountain, if you catch my drift. I'm thinking he's secretly into show tunes, interior decorating and man-sized love.

Granted, that's not the first thing that comes to mind when you talk about the Fredster, who is defined by an apparently pathological hatred of all things homosexual. Perhaps you remember how his followers desecrated the funeral of Matthew Shepard, the gay college student who was beaten and left to die on a prairie fence in Wyoming eight years ago. They showed up at the funeral bearing signs that said, ``God Hates Fags.''

Now Phelps has updated his act. His ''thinking,'' if you want to use that word, is that the casualties of the Iraq war are divine retribution for this country's tolerance of homosexuality. So, he says, thank God for the IED's, improvised explosive devices, that have sent so many American soldiers home in dead and broken pieces.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13970655.htm
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:06 PM
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1. Please refresh my memory--
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 10:08 PM by bliss_eternal
on who Mr. Phelps is?

Isn't it sad when someone is putting out gay vibes, but they go through all the trouble to publicly denounce gays complete with speeches on 'the lifestyle...' :eyes:

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:20 PM
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6. Ugh--what a sicko!
I just googled his name and found out. I wouldn't even click on that shit--so disgusting...

:puke:
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:10 PM
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2. I agree with you about Phelps
I think personally he should be strung up by his nasty bits for being the sick fuck that he is.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 01:40 PM
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16. actually I think he should be treated the way
early christians treated hypatia.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:13 PM
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3. I've thought that for a long time
Some of the outfits he wears - like a pink cowboy shirt - the double-breasted kind with the round-string-like border etched on it and then stitching above it in a fancy pattern, wearing one of those string ties, a cowboy hat, and then what looks like make-up (I've seen several pictures of him in an outfit like that), and he just screams that he's a former drag queen down on his luck.

TlalocW
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:14 PM
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4. I don't think anyone who screams and preaches against gays
is heterosexual. If they were they would shut up. The main thing to know is that he is a very sick man - and now his children are sick.

In Phelps case I would be willing to bet he was molested as a child by a man and someone he trusted - more than likely a care giver or a person in a position of authority and respect. Perhaps a scout leader, a preacher, a coach, teacher, grandfather, etc.

But frankly, I don't want to know what made him the way he is. Phelps on the other hand needs to know, acknowledge and ask for forgiveness of all those he has hurt. He is one sick motherf**ker.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:18 PM
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5. Oh no--he has KIDS?
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 10:26 PM by bliss_eternal
:(
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:10 AM
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7. Want to know about Fred Phelps and his kids?
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 12:13 AM by TaleWgnDg
.

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is a great resource of info. SPLC does a fantastic job of anti-discrimination legal advocacy and hate-gathering resources. Read more here.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:23 AM
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8. human sexuality is seldom an "either/or" proposition . . .
sexuality exists on a continuum from heterosexual to homosexual, but it's doubtful that any human being is 100% either . . . all heterosexuals have SOME homosexual component in their psychosexual makeup, just as all homosexuals have SOME hetersexual component . . .

what drives homophobes crazy is fear of the homosexual part of themselves . . . it may be small, even insignificant, but it's there . . . and for those who already have strongly negative feelings about "queers", it scares the living shit out of them . . .
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:39 AM
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9. sorry not gay
just sick piece of shit
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:38 AM
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10. Phelps was arrested for obscene behavior with a man in canada.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rev._Fred_Phelps

"By Phelps's own admission, he never dated, and had no interest in members of the opposite sex.
(snip)
Two years after his disbarment, Phelps would begin his anti-gay picketing crusades. (Perhaps in an attempt to compensate for his arrest in Canada on an Obscene Conduct charge (with another man) and prove to himself that he didn't have bi-sexual tendencies).
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 08:23 AM
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11. not every one who actively engages in hating gay folk
is gay.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 06:31 AM
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17. No, but a high enough percentage to support a stereotype - there are some
hate mongers out there that sure do spend alot more hours everyday thinking about gay sex and what 2 guys do together in bed than I do. Even in my younger days when it seemed as though I had a perpetual hardon, I still wasn't that focused on the subject.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:25 PM
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12. Phelps is addicted to causing emotional pain
in others, and to having the center of attention.

I'm guessing bipolar, psychotic and borderline personality disorder, and a thing for beating his kids half to death.

He has this "the more powerful my enemies are, the more powerful I am" delusion and he loves the spotlight and sense of power of being a household name and able to mobilize communities to oppose him.

He really is a defective mentally ill human, and I'm guessing a lot of that is choice.

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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 03:34 PM
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13. Whether he is gay or not it is clear he is not comfortable with his own
sexuality. My hypothesis on the Phelps phenomenom is that he is probably mostly straight but had some kind of "experience" as a young man where he was sexually attracted to a man and it scared the crap out of him. I also suspect that for some reason (possibly being sexually abused as a child) in general he is not capable of real intimacy with anyone of either gender and the frustration and anger of that hurt causes him to lash out against gays. Whatever, he is one messed up dude. The thing I find genuinely puzzling is why his family members, particularly his daughters, support his "cause". I can only believe that he has some kind of hold over them - almost certainly psychological abuse if not physical/sexual abuse is involved, imo.
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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 08:15 PM
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14. I read this in the local paper...
you beat me to the punch.

This is one of the greatest works by Mr. Pitts. Ever.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 08:40 PM
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15. I wish people would just ignore this man (Phelps). . .
I've already said this but he thrives on publicity -- especially negative publicity.

They would all probably just go away if nobody paid attention to them.

***By the way, thinking of that piece of white trash even remotely being gay makes me want to :puke:
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gator_in_Ontario Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 06:44 AM
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18. I just
love Leonard Pitts!
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