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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:25 PM
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Gay Nazis Were Extra-Super Brutal.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/top_social_conservative.php?ref=fpb

A top official with a leading social conservative group recently laid out the view that Adolf Hitler deliberately recruited gays to be his "enforcers," because they had "no limits" to "the savagery and brutality they were willing to inflict."

During a radio broadcast, Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association explained:


So Hitler himself was an active homosexual. And some people wonder, didn't the Germans, didn't the Nazis, persecute homosexuals? And it is true they did; they persecuted effeminate homosexuals. But Hitler recruited around him homosexuals to make up his Stormtroopers, they were his enforcers, they were his thugs. And Hitler discovered that he could not get straight soldiers to be savage and brutal and vicious enough to carry out his orders, but that homosexual solders basically had no limits and the savagery and brutality they were willing to inflict on whomever Hitler sent them after. So he surrounded himself, virtually all of the Stormtroopers, the Brownshirts, were male homosexuals.

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Yeah, so this should give any of you straight mofos pause - Don't Make us Unlock the Inner Nazi!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:27 PM
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1. See also: Video: Only gays were savage enough for Hitler
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:28 PM
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3. Sorry, Ian, didn't see it already posted.
Hopefully they can add this thread to yours. It's the same article.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:30 PM
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4. No, let it stay in two threads. It gets more hits that way. n/t
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:35 PM
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5. It's an interesting twist on Ernst Rohm
It's true he had quite a cadre of gays in that inner circle for a while at the beginning. But after the Long Knives purge, which happened pretty early, all that was cleared out. I wonder how he reconciles that with the many years of brutality that followed the purge?
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 02:26 PM
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14. He doesn't, of course. It's not meant to be a historically accurate statement.
Edited on Wed May-26-10 02:27 PM by Raster

Just homophobic and inflammatory.

We should expect much more of this crap from cretins such as this. This really is all they have. And just like a wounded animal backed into a corner, they are going to strike out at anything.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:28 PM
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2. Yeh! Don't make us crack our whips on yer asses.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:01 PM
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9. Given the numerous scandals of the "anti gay for pay" crowd, that may
be exactly what they really wish we were doing to them
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:40 PM
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16. I read the Hidden Hitler. Interesting take on this little bastard.
If he was gay, and he probably was, that had nothing to do with his hatred and his actions. If it did, then explain Stalin and all the other dictators who were straight. You can't blame this stuff on gender orientation. The fact that his father beat his butt and probably warped his head is what made Hitler what he was.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:44 PM
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17. Probably?
WTF? There is no proof...Jesus H Christ...
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 08:47 PM
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24. I swear we need a weekly Orkin guy visit in here.
They crawl out of the woodwork every time I turn around.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 10:58 PM
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27. have you read the book and its evidence? WTF indeed.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:51 PM
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19. that; and his time in Vienna (when anti-semitism and pan-Germanism were rampant
Edited on Wed May-26-10 04:56 PM by Adsos Letter
and his WWI experiences...hard to say what turns some people into homicidal maniacs, while the vast majority of others experience similar things, and handle them differently.

EDIT: I don't believe he was gay; he had a real thing for (at least) two females in his life: Geli Raubal, and Eva Braun. Plus his mother.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:57 PM
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20. There's no proof...iodiots who say he was, are working backwards, starting with his being
a monster, and then coming to the conclusion that only people who really hate themselves (gay people) can be such monsters...it's homophobia of the worst kind.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:03 PM
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21. Like I said, I don't think he was gay...I was agreeing with RogueValley
that his experiences with his father may have set the tone for how he went through his life before his rise to political power. I wasn't very clear about it in my post, so I edited it (and expanded on it). :)

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 12:27 AM
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28. actually, they interviewed his closest earliest companions and
tracked around for the dossiers that he quashed wherever he found them.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 09:58 AM
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30. Uh, actually, they made that shit up...n/t
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 01:47 PM
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31. again, did you read the book? I am only talking about a book. I
am not making an assertion. And it appears that I am the only one here that has read the book.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:12 PM
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22. Here is a link to a book you might find interesting
Explaining Hitler: The Search for the Origins of His Evil by Ron Rosenbaum

http://www.amazon.com/Explaining-Hitler-Search-Origins-Evil/dp/006095339X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274911616&sr=8-1#noop

I read it as part of a Graduate seminar on Historiography. Very interesting, as it gives the opinions of historians who have studied der Nutcase over the years.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:36 PM
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6. You know, this is really, really sick...lies upon lies that the brain-dead
who follow this guy are gonna believe.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 08:48 PM
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25. And many others as well.
Just look at how many true believers have shown up on this thread to take what he is saying as gospel, then run with it and rewrite history to fit the Hitler was gay meme. Speaks volumes, doesn't it?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:37 PM
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:46 PM
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8. "...Hitler himself was an active homosexual..."
Must have come as something of a surprise to Eva Braun.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:54 PM
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11. Yes, Eva must have been the beard. This guy is a raving lunatic.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 02:59 PM
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15. An active homosexual? Well, he did ski and hike a lot,
so I guess it might be true.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:48 PM
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18. just for clarity' (if needed)...
I was quoting the article; not my characterization of Hitler. :)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:35 PM
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10. Oh I think I dated a few of them - they were all romantic bottoms. Nt
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 02:18 PM
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12. oh yes....
"Hitler was a homo!" - - - big surprise the bigots are running with that - make your enemy be all the things you already despise. They are nucking futs... seriously! Yeah, all the SS were "BRUTAL GAYS". LOL.... Some were Gay, I'm sure, just like in every group of people, but wow, talk about batshit crazy.

Donco, if they ever come for us, we'll make sure we break out the inner brutal SS on their asses.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 08:50 PM
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26. w00t! WAR!!!
I'll go sharpen my machete. :P
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 08:28 AM
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29. Haha! Absolutely.
I know it's in there somewhere.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 02:23 PM
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13. The stupid! It burns! Learn it:
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:53 PM
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23. I hope that Bryan Fischer forgets his safe word.
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