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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 03:45 PM
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Why would Obama say this?

Barack Obama is beyond good with words. He is a craftsman and uses them in his oratory like any any painter who wants to touch a soul. His speech is stirring, and it motivates people. They remember his words.

So I sat up straight when I heard Obama, at 10:20 a.m Pacific Standard Time today, say "Now, there are some folks who wanted to scrap the system of private insurance and replace it with a government-run health care program..."

Say what? Why _those_ words? He could have said "there are those who cannot support a public plan today", or just trumpet the benefits some see in the bill currently being finalized.

Other than shrill opposition pundits on late-nite television I have heard no thoughtful person say we should "scrap" private health care. What was proposed was a competitive public plan, in which insurance cos are free to compete with reasonable rates and outcomes. To say "government-run health care program" sounds very similar to the complaints of the teabaggers who insist that the Democrats want to "take over the hospitals and doctors and tell them what to do". To say government-run health "care" instead of government health "insurance" are two very different things. And he knows darn well they are.

Why does this master of speech, one who "owns" any podium and nearly any audience he speaks to find it necessary to deliberatly use the frame and wording of the Republicans, (his opponents?) to speak against the idea? I did some googling and he has repeated this phrse at every stop in his "push" toward passing what passes for health care reform.

Is he sending a signal that not only is any thought of a public plan dead, but that he will actively work against it? Is he just so desperate to pass something that he will go to any lengths to do so? Such words coming from him could well be the equivalent of putting any idea of a public option in the ground and throwing dirt on it. That line is made to order for any future opposition to a public plan.

I might be overreacting, but I have too much respect for his skills to think he doesn't spend an incredible amount of time and deliberately use every word and phrase in every speech to make sure it gets across the point he wants.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 03:49 PM
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1. Please find the context/transcript, because sometimes it does
matter what prefaces a sentence and what is said after to make sense of anything.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 03:50 PM
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2. i remember at the start of HCR, he
said something like we couldn't have the kind of health care that other countries have because it would be too hard to do.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 03:51 PM
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3. I took that as his speaking to repub obstructionists...n/t
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 03:53 PM
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4. Sorry, meant to put this in General Discussion
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 04:12 PM
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5. You're more likely to get honest answers from the regulars in here, however. n/t
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 05:24 PM
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6. Obvious, isn't it?
He wants to debunk the idea that the current bill IS a government takeover of healthcare.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 09:39 AM
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7. A *real* public option *would* eventually kill the corporate vultures.
Can't have that, now, can we......?
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 11:15 AM
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8. It's the only thing that ever will n/t
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 01:41 AM
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9. It was just one song.
Master of Triangulation.
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