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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 02:40 AM
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NOM: Same-Sex Unions Pose Greater Risk Of Child Abuse (based on study that never mentions GLBTs)
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/nom-same-sex-unions-greater-risk-of-child-abuse/news/2010/01/30/7483

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Well, Brian, let’s look at the real facts from the very government study you cite. The study looks at maltreatment with two different standards. Under the more stringent standard, it found that one in every 58 children in the United States is physically and/or emotionally abused and/or neglected. That’s about 1.7% of all children in the U.S., or, according to the study, “an estimated 1,256,600 children.” Under the less-stringent standard, that number jumps to almost three million children.

Three million children, Brian. Where is your outrage?

Under the more stringent and detailed standard, the study found:

“The majority of all children … were maltreated by their biological parents.” In fact, the study says that “92% were neglected by biological parents” and “64% were abused by biological parents.”
“Biological parents were the most closely related perpetrators for 71% of physically abused children and for 73% of emotionally abused children.”
Bottom line: Of children who are “maltreated” — abused and/or neglected, it is those children’s own biological parents who are the perpetrators.

The study also stated there was a 26% decline in the rate of maltreated children — children who were physically and/or emotionally abused and/or neglected. Just as we have seen the rate of divorce decrease in states when same-sex couples are granted the right to legally marry, one has to wonder if the vast increase in same-sex couples raising children has something to do with that 26% decline in the rate of maltreated children?

What is also significant is that nowhere does the study mention same-sex married couples. Nowhere. Nor does it draw any conclusion about same-sex married couples. It also does not have a category for same-sex married or “civil-unioned” couples. Nor does it have a category or make any mention of homosexual unmarried couples, nor draw any distinction between same-sex and opposite-sex unmarried couples.

In short, Brian, your argument doesn’t hold water.

In no way, shape, or form does the study suggest same-sex married or un-married couples are child abusers or pose any increased threat to children. Yet you see fit to continue those disgusting lies.....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 02:44 AM
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 03:16 AM
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2. i really think there are some who would rather kids be with someone who is abusive and hetero
than someone who is gay and a good parent.

it's like those who claim to be against abortion because they are "pro life" but these same people would oppose helping poor kids and rather have them starve to death or die due to lack of health care than have govt pay for those things.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 08:14 AM
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3. I think you are on the right track
I've known gay folks that try to adopt or help kids in distress, than straight folks who might already have their hands full with their own children.
Frequently gay folks get mistreated and want to change that for the next generation.
We had that forefront when we decided to take Dora my now service dog, to give her a life as free of pain and want as we could.
My partner and I have discussed it at length.
I have a market list of health issues so a foster or adoption agency would not see us as a good risk and our financial situation is less than ideal.

We do dog rescue, my partner used to keep foster dogs. We adopt.
We currently have 4 dogs 2 were in very bad situations before and the other two were at risk of neglect or abuse, even death for one because she was not pure bred.
They have love, attention, enough food(wellness), toys, a big fenced yard, warm place(inside) and neighbor kids that are allowed to play with them
They are happy and well adjusted, we had our 'wedding' here with 40 strangers to them visiting for the ceremony.
There was not a problem..they were a little barky at first, but with in half an hour they were going around getting pets (and some folks were sneakin treats i suspect). I think that is pretty good since we live in the boonies and no more than one or two had ever visited out here before and no more than 2 at a time.

The reason I bring up the dogs is that if someone abuses an animal, they will eventually get around to people and children are so defenceless.
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jeremyfive Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:03 PM
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4. Anita Bryant Lied.
Anita Bryant lied. Nobody died.

But a lot suffered unnecessarily.

Join GLAAD if, like me, you are concerned about such defamation of minority citizens.

(Last I heard of Anita, she was headed for court, having cheated her dinner theatre employees out of their paychecks.)
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dickthegrouch Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 01:17 AM
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5. I often wonder how many closeted gays in hetero marriages
actually end up abusing their children or spouse?

I can certainly envisage that, having been pressured (overtly or covertly) into making a commitment with someone of the wrong gender for what their suppressed sexuality desires, a train wreck of a family relationship follows.

I have met so many older men who have come out later in life (after their marriage was well and truly over, or after the kids had left home).

If the societal and familial pressure to fit the norm was blasted out of the way, I think a lot of adults and kids might be a lot happier.
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