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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 04:08 PM
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6 more tortured and killed in Iraq for being Gay (ABC News)
http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=7448915&page=1

Two gay men were killed in Baghdad's Sadr City slum, and police confirmed they found the bodies of four more men, all killed during a 10-day period after an unknown Shiite militia group urged a crackdown on homosexuals in the country.

The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs believes as many as 30 people have been killed during the last three months because they were -- or were perceived to be -- gay.

In a letter to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, the human rights group Amnesty International called for "urgent and concerted action" to end the violence against the gay community, the group reported on its Web site.

Homosexuality is prohibited almost everywhere in the Middle East, but conditions have become especially dangerous in recent years for gays and lesbians, as religious militias have become more powerful since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

But an Iraqi military source claimed the recent killings were linked to tribal violence, not militias, and his characterization of the killings hints at how deep homophobia runs in Iraqi society.

"Two young men were killed Thursday. They were sexual deviants. Their tribes killed them to restore their family honor," an Iraqi army member who did not want to give his name told ABC News.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 04:12 PM
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1. .
:cry:
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 04:15 PM
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2. religious militias have become more powerful since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
Some "liberators", 'eh?
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 04:15 PM
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3. Oh, quit your whining....
the execution of GLBT people is just a pet issue...

:argh:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 04:18 PM
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4. You know, I hate to say it - but this never happened under Sadaam
He was too busy being paranoid
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 05:00 PM
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5. Making Saddam seem progressive...
It's not just appalling, it's downright pathetic. :grr:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 05:01 PM
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6. Appalling, pathetic - but true
He did not go after the Iraqi gay community

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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 05:08 PM
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7. Offering proof, perhaps, that a secular dictatorship might be marginally better than a theocracy?
But then, guys like Stalin and Pol Pot could be seen as counter-examples to that theory, so I really don't know... :shrug:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 05:15 PM
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8. No, just pointing out differences
If you were GLBT, your life might have been better under Sadaam

If you were a GLBT fighting for Democracy, it probably wasn't

Why so hostile?
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 07:17 PM
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11. Hostile? Sorry, I didn't mean to be hostile at all. I was just musing on the subject.
I guess you got my tone all wrong. My apologies... :hi:
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 07:35 PM
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13. Interesting chapter in Hitchens' God is not Great' that ....
... speaks to this very paradox.
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 07:36 PM
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14. Oh, I see... You thought I was calling *your argument* "appalling" and "pathetic,"
when I was really saying that the reality of the situation (in Iraq) was. That's what I hate about message boards - so easy to misinterpret text with no tone of voice or anything else attached.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:34 PM
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9. Its islam and the sharia in action
And to think some progressives support it...
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 07:32 PM
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12. And the absolutely predictable result of the US invasion....
... that overthrew the ( relatively ) secular dictatorship that preceded it.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 10:35 AM
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19. Actually those kinds of things are expected anywhere islam gets any serious foothold
Edited on Fri May-29-09 10:36 AM by ProgressiveProfessor
The treatment of gays and women in any islamic or sharia environment is horrific
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:48 PM
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10. So if I accuse my worthless boss of being a homosexual, will you kill him for me?
It would be great for my career. Maybe you could glue his anus shut?
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:48 AM
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15. K&R
:kick:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 09:30 AM
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16. What does Fierce Advocate have to say about this ?
Iraq doesn't have to listen to Amnesty International or the UN.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 10:27 AM
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17. Did you ask the Professor if you could post this?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 10:33 AM
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18. He will have to send his permission by messenger,
as he has been barred from this particular part of the college.
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