Pam's House Blend: Inside the Mushy Mind of A Log Cabbiner.

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The article came from Pam’s House blend. Which led me, out of curiosity, to see what a Log Cabin Republican has to tell themselves these days to justify their stay where they are not wanted and reviled.

The article from Repug Alex Knepper follows.

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/

The Confusion of a Gay Republican
by: Victor Maldonado
Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 12:56:48 PM EST

Alex Knepper, over at Independent Gay Forum, has written an interesting thought piece on the relationship between classical liberalism and partisanship and, in the process, comes to some staggeringly unrealistic conclusions.

Knepper's thesis, "that the virtues of classical liberalism - individualism, self-reliance and a rejection of cultural relativism - help gay men, just as they do all of mankind and are better exemplified by the Republican Party than by the Democratic Party," puts on display the immaturity and denial which have become a hallmark of the GOP. Any resident of the real world can see that over the past eight years it is the Democrats, not Republicans, who best represent the best of classical liberalism.

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While not perfect, Democrats have over the past decade learned the lessons of past failures, and embraced the power of individuality. Democrats support their apostate with far better credibility than the GOP. A tent which houses both Jay Rockefeller and Dennis Kucinich is one of breadth and range. The party of Jesse Jackson and Robert Byrd is one that is still vital and actively involved in the American conversation.

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http://www.indegayforum.org/news/show/31719.html

Gay. And Republican. And Not Confused.
by Alex Knepper
First published in the American University Eagle on February 16, 2009

I am a gay Republican. I am not "self-hating." I am not confused.

I am comfortable enough with my sexuality to think of myself in terms of traits other than simply my sexual orientation. I believe that my attraction to the same sex should have no bearing to my thoughts on tax policy, trade, foreign affairs or abortion. I believe that my sexuality is merely an incidental part of my life and should not be a major factor in my decision-making.

I am aware that there is a rich tradition of intellectualism, secularism and equality within the Republican Party outside of the Religious Right. I am aware that Hillary Clinton and Dick Cheney hold the same positions on gay rights. I am aware that Bill Clinton signed into law the last major anti-gay piece of legislation passed by Congress — the so-called Defense of Marriage Act. I am self-respecting enough to know that the words of the Democrats on gay rights are no substitute for their lack of action.

I believe that the virtues of classical liberalism — individualism, self-reliance and a rejection of cultural relativism — help gay men, just as they do all of mankind and are better exemplified by the Republican Party than by the Democratic Party. I am furthermore woefully confused by gay men's ambivalence toward radical Islam, which holds them in a particularly low esteem.

"I have been discriminated against more by Democrats than by Republicans. I have been shunned and mocked by Democrats, many of whom will not accept me as a gay man unless I fit into their neatly packaged view of what a gay man is ‘supposed’ to be."

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Reply #1 kicks some glutes:

Comments to "Gay. And Republican. And Not Confused.":
KipEsquire | February 19, 2009, 8:55am | #

What part of "registered independent" is unclear to you?

You invent a convenient straw man argument, hinting that gay Democrats find you repulsive merely because you are not a gay Democrat.

But as a fellow gay non-Democrat, I can assure you that is not the case. They find you repulsive for the same reason I do: because you ARE repulsive. Any person who embraces a collective that actively seeks his destruction -- as a core moral principle -- is, by definition, repulsive.

Furthermore, I also find you repulsive simply as a libertarian. The current Republican Party has done far more to roll back the principles of classical liberalism -- individual rights, minimal government, and free enterprise than the current Democratic Party could ever dream of. You are entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to your own George W. Bush.

Finally, your bizarre suggestion that all gay non-Republicans exhibit "ambivalence toward radical Islam, which holds them in a particularly low esteem" is, quite frankly, stupid. Did al Qaeda fund "Yes on 8"?

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. I may be a flaming heterosexual, but...

I think I just fell head over heels for Kip. Rawr. ;-)

If his SO reads this, please: Give him a kiss for me. Lots of tongue, too. :D

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2. Yeah Kip kicked some bootocks there! LOL.

Funny, how when self reliance is translated into action, like marriage rights and responsibilities, to allow same sex couples full access to the tools of self reliance, like health benefits, Federal benefits, inheritance ( quite a few same sex families have kids, or will face getting old and need to be self reliant to care for one another, rather than burdening society) the Repugs show moral relativism!

How do those Cabbiners live with these self induced lies?

:thumbsup:

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

One could develop the sense...

That the LCR's are the largest collection of power bottoms in the world. Just one theory in a world full of them.

"Beat me! Whip me! Make me sign contribution checks!"

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4. Of course the Repugs are inclusive of everything from A to B.

:sarcasm:

Maybe just "A" to "A"??? :evilgrin:

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6. They actually go from A to A??!!

:wow:

Who knew? :shrug:

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7. If they are trying to woo gay voters and wallets, this is not a great start.

Going from A to A, isn't that onanism? :rofl:

If they did, it would only include capital A's, the lower case would not be welcome. :cry:

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

8. Onan?

You mean these guys?



I had no idea they were into such kinky stuff.

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10. Yes. The worship of power tools.

Including compressors.

Ask (almost)any lesbian. :evilgrin: Be careful or I'll post my Huskvarna chain saw pic. :P

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15. Stop!

You are making me moist. It's not the chainsaw, but the name "Husqvarna". It has an inexplicable effect on me. I get so...weak. So very weak.

What DID I do with that bottle of salts?

On edit: I had this friend of mine, she passed away recently, who said that going to Home Depot and taking rides on the big paint mixer was the very definition of "it".

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17. That's a twist on the dishawasher paradigm. :)

I love the smell of plywood and 2"X4"'s when I walk into Loew's.

I can't help it, I just want to build things when that eau de pine hits me. :P

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18. Ahh. The Dishwasher Paradigm.

Was that a piece by Steven Hawking or George Guilder? I can never remember.

Probably Guilder. He's a big jerkoff.

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19. Yes, yes. In A Brief History of Time, Hawking wrote about it

in Chapter 3 was it?

Then, an episode of Dr. Who, "The Lost Episode" the no one has ever seen alluded to the paradigm, Terry Pratchett was said to have wanted to write an entire volume of Disc World about this principle and then someone discovered that it all came from an early episode of Mork & Mindie and it was Pam Dawber's idea!

Ya' know, life is sometimes as strange as fiction.

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3. Nice

LCRs are freaking idiots. Kip's response is right on. The RRRwers are always whining about "Radical Islam", but the biggest threat we face here in the US is our own home-grown Radical Christianity and the Mormons. Trust me, the percentage of "Yes on 8" contributions from people with recognizably Persian surnames is incredibly low. When the database is up (yes, I know it's taking forever) you'll see just who the big players really are. In the meantime check out Californians Against Hate for great data.

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5. Odd to hear the phony, retread, rw claim that Dems/gays are soft on national security.

Funny thing is, until I read these articles I was thinking of the LCR's as just "misguided family."

Now, having read the piece, I see they are rw water carriers just like the rest of that crowd.

Thank you for the link!

[NMMNG]

9. They're not misguided

They're utter morons and sellouts who think nothing of sucking up to the very people who would gladly eradicate any semblance of rights they have--if not worse. But I guess to them having "tax rebates" makes up for the fact that you have to use them (and then some) to pay your lawyer for maybe half the rights everyone else takes for granted.

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11. It's hard to even imagine the "Big Lie Pill" they have to swallow every morning

just to face themselves in the mirror.

Maldonado pointed to the 28 years of the Big Repig lies in his anaylsis, lest society forget what mire we just crawled out from.

"Finally there is the question of cultural relativism. What does Knepper think the GOP has become over the past twenty eight years? Kansas teaches creationism next to evolution. The Bush Administration spent millions of dollars combating HIV/AIDS in Africa but mandated the teaching of abstinence over the lessons of safe-sex. A candidate for the head of the GOP just this year appealed to delegates by playing a song entitled "Barack the Magic Negro"! The GOP is rife with relativism: Christian relativism, Southern-white relativism, heterosexual relativism. The Democrats may be a party built upon constituencies, but eight years in the wilderness have taught Democratic leaders the limits of identity politics, just ask President Barack Obama."
Victor Maldonado
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=9587

Here's a good reply to the repug from a gay woman:

by: kevinchi @ Sun Feb 22, 2009 at 13:07:03 PM CST

The subculture is destructive?
What subculture?
There are as many gay lifestyles as there are gays and Lesbians. My subculture is a group of women with professional and/or graduate degrees who meet as a large group monthly to discuss Lesbian and feminist issues, and in smaller groups socially to go skiing, rowing , canoeing, kayaking, to discuss politics, music, art, theatre. Aside from the skiing, not all that destructive.....

But speaking of subcultures:
The subculture of the base of the Republican party is destructive, consisting of a "Bubbas', Broads, Booze and Bibles" mentality the demeans intellectualism, individualism, women's rights, and the right of a human being to be judged upon their own merits

This tedious attempt at self justification and perhaps attempt at pleading with the republican base to show that you are different from the other 'bad gays" like me and mine is a shallow repitition of conserva-queer platitudes; I was frankly amazed that you made it to th end without the usual shot at "Lefty Liberal Lesbians" that I see from accomodations born to priviledged and inured bu riches and social position to the plight of most of the LGBT community.

There is something hugely reminiscent of Stein's or Radclyffe Hall's paens on fascism, embracing and extolling the imaginary virtues of the oppressor. A student of Lesbian history, I've read far too many such documents by far greater authors than you to find this tawdry apologia anything but tedious and repetitious, the latest in the century old LGBT elitist attempt to curry favour with the oppressor and to desparately try to convince them that you are the same as them.

As to that point, though lickspittles like you are in their own fasion destructive, you are in no fashion as destructive as them, or as honest as they are. They at least hate based upon principle. You kiss the boot affixed upon your throat based upon the influence and wealth in the pocket of the trousers above the boot...."
-http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=9587

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12. Log Cabin Republicans = Gays who'd rather have money than rights.

Scum of the fucking earth. They're no family of mine.

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13. No, they're not part of the gay family at all.

Traitors? Yes.

I recall about five years ago, they were on TV during the repug convention when dubya was renominated.

The head LCR was explaining that they were trying to change the party from the inside and gain acceptance.

At the same time he was giving that interview, some repug Texas cutie, with a 10 gallon hat, sun damage, very blond repug big hair, was giving another interview about getting the gays competley out of the party!

Now, this guy is actually attacking the gay community, this is worse than they were 5 years ago.

Brain washed, brow beaten and greedy $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

[QC]

14. The Cabinettes are not gay. They're homosexual. n/t

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16. They must have an agenda to match.

:rofl: