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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:31 PM
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Who wants to form a "fake" public advocacy group
Traditional background information, first:

Oregon State Voter Pamphlet Stuns Anti-Gay Measure Supporters
by The Associated Press
Posted: October 1, 2004 12:01 am ET

(Portland, Oregon) Four satirical statements appearing in the state Voters' Pamphlet have upset supporters of a ban on gay marriage. One, submitted by the phony "Defense of Heterosexual Breeding Coalition" reads "The Bible states that marriage is for procreation," and adds that Oregon should bar homosexuals, infertile persons, men with vasectomies, and others from marrying.

Fred Neal, Voters' Pamphlet supervisor for the secretary of state, said such ballot argument pranks have happened before. His office can't yank such a statement unless it violates state law, which bans "obscene, profane and defamatory language" or words that "incite hatred, abuse or violence."

The Defense of Marriage Coalition, sponsor of the measure to amend the state's constitution to outlaw same-sex marriage, has urged the state to cut the statements.

Kelly Clark, attorney for the group, told The Oregonian that the state would not tolerate "such language targeted at the Jewish community, the Islamic community or anybody except the conservative Christian community."

The author of the four voter guide statements is M. Dennis Moore, a Portland freelance book editor and church organist. He said he's simply using satire, "a very ancient literary device to ridicule hypocrisy."

More:
http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/10/100104votePrank.htm


See also:
Results 1 - 20 of about 219 for "M. Dennis Moore" and "Heterosexual Breeding"
http://tinyurl.com/djd29

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This guy filed real paperwork for real advocacy corporations so that he could put his position papers on the official Voters' Pamphlet distributed by the state.

My idea would be an organization that proposes to "preserve heterosexual procreation and protect the sanctity of circumcision."

See:


The Defense of Circumcision Act (DOCA):

I would like to suggest new legislation for the purpose of protecting and preserving the sanctity of circumcision.

Traditionally, circumcision has been a sacred institution honoring the covenant between God and the Children of Abraham set forth in Genesis 17.

Only recently, gentiles began emulating the motions and mechanics of circumcision, but violating its sanctity by conducting it without religious ritual, on non-Jews, in secular, medical contexts.

The act of circumcision was defined thousands of years ago as a sacred rite performed upon a Jewish child, for the purpose of sanctifying a man before God. This is older even than the tradition of limiting “traditional Judeo-Christian Marriage” to one man and one woman.

To reduce circumcision to a mere clinical procedure, requiring only a scalpel and some Betadine, is a mockery of Judaism and of God Himself.

Furthermore, The Bible andmillenniuma of tradition explicitly forbid duplicating the act of circumcision, without ritual, upon non-believers:

More:
http://kennypearce.net:8084/archives/000011.html



I propose mirroring the efforts of M. Dennis Moore, but taking it a few steps further:

1) Filing Amicus Briefs in court cases that have nothing to do with gay marriage. For example:
a) Divorce proceedings between high-profile "pro-family" litigants.
b) Lawsuits for botched circumcisions.
c) Other annoying places.

2) Protesting outside hospitals that practice circumcision on Non-Jews.

3) Protesting outside the offices of divorce lawyers and family courts.

4) Filing complaints to prevent andannull the marriages of childless people above the age where they could possibly conceive a child.

5) Filing complaints to order all circumcised non-Jews to have their foreskins surgically restored. We would only do this in states where courts have ordered gay marriages to beannulledd.

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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:52 PM
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1. I'd love to use the new amendments to throw out some big-wigs
prenuptial as he's getting rid of wife #2 or 3 or 4. After all, the voters made it clear that it's ONE man and ONE woman, all other legal contraptions that seek to mimic that won't be recognized - that has to include next marriages, unless it's to the same ONE woman that they were married the first time.

And why not put "Absolutely No Divorce" in the filings that you outline. After all, the only way to protect the sanctity of marraige would be to follow the Bible and even Jesus outlaws almost every reason for divorce.

Actually, the way the Bible is worded, people getting married again are committing adultery most of the time, and if the laws against that are still on the books, maybe we could do some citizen's arrests.
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benevolent dictator Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 12:21 AM
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2. We could also rent billboards advertising the groups. All we need is
a few snappy slogans and enough $$$ to rent a billboard... but that shouldn't be too hard if we get enough people in on it.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 06:43 PM
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3. Billboards are very expensive. Websites and press releases are cheap.
And if you don't hire an lawyers, filing an amicus brief is cheap, too.
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