Tom Hanks Says Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American'

[Starry Messenger]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480167,00.html#1

"Tom Hanks, an Executive Producer for HBO’s controversial polygamist series “Big Love,” made his feelings toward the Mormon Church’s involvement in California's Prop 8 (which prohibits gay marriage) very clear at the show’s premiere party on Wednesday night.

“The truth is this takes place in Utah, the truth is these people are some bizarre offshoot of the Mormon Church, and the truth is a lot of Mormons gave a lot of money to the church to make Prop-8 happen,” he told Tarts. “There are a lot of people who feel that is un-American, and I am one of them. I do not like to see any discrimination codified on any piece of paper, any of the 50 states in America, but here's what happens now. A little bit of light can be shed, and people can see who's responsible, and that can motivate the next go around of our self correcting Constitution, and hopefully we can move forward instead of backwards. So let's have faith in not only the American, but Californian, constitutional process.”...

...Bill McKeever, a rep for the Mormonism Research Ministry, added, "Personally, I find it un-American to tell people that they shouldn’t vote their conscience. Hanks said he doesn’t 'like to see any discrimination codified on any piece of paper.' Considering that just about every law discriminates in some form or another, makes this comment ridiculous. Hanks’ comment shows that he very much believes in discriminating against people with whom he disagrees. I may not agree with Mormon theology, but I certainly defend their right to express their opinion.""


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Sorry to use Fox as a news source, but it was actually one of the more even-handed of the headlines and articles. Other links are spinning this as Hanks "lashing out" and "bashing". I'd love to know who the Mormons use for their PR work.

http://news.google.com/news?q=mormons+prop+8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&ncl=1293704860&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=1&ct=more-results&cd=1

[Sebastian Doyle]

1. Well of course they're Unamerican

They think they're from the planet Kolob and that this is the New Zion. What's "American" about that?

[Gato Moteado]

2. how does anyone take any dogma seriously.....but especially the mormon church

they're like the wackiest of the wacky

[Zuiderelle]

3. "Considering that just about every law discriminates in some form or another"

Um... which one of these things is not like the other?

Making murder illegal discriminates against killers.
Making rape illegal discriminates against rapists.
Making child-abuse illegal discriminates against child abusers.
Making gay marriage illegal discriminates against people who want to marry.

[Starry Messenger]

4. Exactly.

Talk about morally and intellectually bankrupt. Unbelievable.

[Political_Junkie]

5. Well said!

OT: Like your new sig line! :)

[The Brethren]

19. that's part of the problem, his arguements lack logic

or consistency such as when he stated: 'but I certainly defend their right to express their opinion.""' Tom Hanks was doing just that -- expressing his opinion.

I've noticed bigots are more lately running out of angles to try and smooth the waters when it comes to their homophobia. So they're simply turning the tables with words and logic. A very old mind game.

[donco6]

6. Hooray Tom Hanks.

I see where Angels and Demons is coming out soon. Did you guys read the book? Looking forward to it, even more so now.

[Starry Messenger]

7. Sorry, my second link isn't what I thought it was.

Too late to edit:

Some other links to this story--

http://www.popeater.com/movies/article/hanks-bashes-mormons-prop-8-advocates/309219

http://www.okmagazine.com/news/view/11336

With more negative spin. He's catching heat from this. Hanks is the Executive Producer for "Big Love". I'm hoping he sticks to his guns.

[AntiFascist]

8. K&R, the trick is to move forward....

Prop 8 took the California state constitution backward.

[Starry Messenger]

10. Hi AntiFascist!

It did indeed. It's shameful. I was surprised to see someone of Hank's stature come out and say it. I've been thinking it would be nice to have an ad campaign that says something like "Gay rights are patriotic". Though all of this is probably going to take place in the courts.

I was interested/horrified to see the "rebuttal" by the LDS spokespeople. The misleading statements they make around this issue really piss me off.

[AntiFascist]

11. Hi MPK...

:hi:

My inbox is still being flooded with notifications of filings with the CA Supreme Court. I'll have to start analyzing them closely.

[Starry Messenger]

13. Cool!

I look forward to your posting! You do a great job analyzing them. :hi:

[AntiFascist]

15. EEEK!

There were a total of 60 amicus briefs filed in 2 days. Thanks, but this could take a while!

:freak:

[Cherchez la Femme]

9. "First remove the beam from your own eye,

and then you'll see clearly enough to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

But then that's just the New Testament, which only ranks at the most third in importance to these people (the first The Book of Mormon, the second The Old Testament).


Which leaves Christ and His words the third-runner up. Such Xtians. :cry:

[AntiFascist]

12. That seems to be the trend...

moving Christianity to pre-Christian thought, all in the name of Christ?

[Jamastiene]

14. Reason 100 that I love Tom Hanks.

Just for that, I may watch Cast Away again tonight. I watch it from time to time anyhow (it's one of my most favorite movies), but now I will watch it knowing Tom Hanks "gets it."

:thumbsup:

[bluedawg12]

16. If people were allowed to "vote their conscience" then,

we wouldn't need a Constitution, any piece of sh*t legislation could be cobbled together by lunatics.

>>...Bill McKeever, a rep for the Mormonism Research Ministry, added, "Personally, I find it un-American to tell people that they shouldn’t vote their conscience. Hanks said he doesn’t 'like to see any discrimination codified on any piece of paper.' Considering that just about every law discriminates in some form or another, makes this comment ridiculous. Hanks’ comment shows that he very much believes in discriminating against people with whom he disagrees. I may not agree with Mormon theology, but I certainly defend their right to express their opinion."<<

F*ck McKeever, the tortured logic liar.

[Starry Messenger]

17. He seems to be a congential whiner.

I just found this gem:

http://www.mrm.org/topics/rebuttals-rejoinders/bill-mckeever-responds-book-mormon-answer-man-web-site

He wants to express an opinion, but not have his name attached to it. That sounds a lot like the folk who are protesting/suing about having their Prop 8 donations exposed in the press.

[bluedawg12]

18. Actually, he expresses an anti-Mormon opinion! Good call.

"Does Mr. Johnson (Mor*on) really expect us to believe that he or any Mormon for that matter does not have biases? Everyone has them. The goal is to lay them aside as much as possible in order to draw a conclusion based on objective reasoning. Unfortunately, many Mormons refuse to do this."
-http://www.mrm.org/topics/rebuttals-rejoinders/bill-mckeever-responds-book-mormon-answer-man-web-site

So, when Mor*ons agitate against human rights it is OK?

But, earlier, he admitted, they were prone to bias, and did not speak from divine source:

"The argument, "when others attack our beliefs, without a specific authority from the Lord, then it is the work of a man," is a two-edged sword that Mormons often blindly use to justify the negative comments made by LDS leaders regarding Christians and their beliefs. Where each gets their authority is one of the primary subjects of the debate. Mormons claim to get their authority via the words of a self-proclaimed prophet and his 19th century novel..." - -http://www.mrm.org/topics/rebuttals-rejoinders/bill-mckeever-responds-book-mormon-answer-man-web-site


Thanks for the link, it is chock full of irony and unintentional humor.