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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:07 AM Original message |
Renewed efforts underway to divide our LGBT community.... |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:13 AM Original message |
hey, WE define ourselves. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
1. That's the Diagnostics and Statistics Manual, the DSM, I think V now. Interesting . . . |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. And I would certainly fall on the side that removing the "T" from it is a good thing... |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I'm sorry, can't parse this. Could you please be more clear? |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I'll try. |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Thanks. :) |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. I am not... |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I'll grant you that it's a dicier situation because it requires medical treatment whereas... |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. well...my position.... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
3. From day one. |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. I refuse to consider trans people "mentally ill" |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Well....there needs to be some justification....somewhere |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. You may be right... |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. With a diagnosis of GID.... |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Thanks for explaining it to me. |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
6. Drop the T? |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
12. Do you have any links? |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. GID is being removed....is my understanding...link |
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keepCAblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
18. We can thank Barney Frank & HRC for throwing the Ts under the ENDA bus |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
19. The T stays, thank you very much |
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Ioo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
20. Fine, I will Voice the unpopular position (flame Suit On) |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I'm not going to flame you, but I don't understand how the exclusion of the transgendered helps us. |
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Ioo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. You are setting up a straw man. There are some REAL issues here that are not present accross ... |
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keepCAblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. " Would you rather get NO BILL AT ALL if it means transgendered is left out? " |
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Ioo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Well I would rather take a small step forward then no step at all. Just silly |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. It's a bit like saying, would you be happy with civil unions? |
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Ioo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Your solution is not a solution at all, just pandering... Another straw man |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I never said we should just include it as a word, |
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Ioo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. You said include, without addressing the issues that need to be addressed... |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 09:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I disagree completely. We include them and address all the issues that affect all of us. |
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Ioo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I do not argue to remove them, they have been removed... Read what I said. |
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keepCAblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. LGBTQI ...we all fall under the umbrella of "sexual minority" |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #20 |
47. Good points actually....highlights the confusion we cause... |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
22. All in this together, All of us |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
26. I support full and equal rights for all transgender people and anyone who identifies as different. |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
27. Sorry, I'm sort of out of it, but is this the DSM diagnosis of "mental illness"? |
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foxfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Yes, this refers to the newest version of DSM. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. For transgendered people, it is still considered a mental illness. |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. How about defining T as a physical birth defect? |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. That might work. |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
29. Yet another effort by straight people to define us an our communities? |
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Brooklyns_Finest (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
32. Interesting |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Well, I can only speak from my own personal experience and offer a |
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Brooklyns_Finest (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Thanks |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I can probably understand, from my perspective, where your brother is coming from. |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #35 |
49. excellent....GENDER defintion understanding is key.... |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
33. You know what's really fucked up about that attitude some people have toward TG/TS people |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-08 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
42. I support equal rights for all people- I stand in solidarity w/ teh "T"! |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
44. I fight for Ts for selfish reasons |
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Ayesha (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
45. Trans doesn't belong in the DSM! |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Good point...as long as it is defined somewhere...and accepted |
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Spectral Music (349 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-30-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
50. I'm sorry I am too late to recommend this. |
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