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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 12:28 PM
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Why Schools Don't Educate - by John Taylor Gatto
Laments about our schools are nothing new; everyone is an expert, it seems, when it comes to education. While most critics point to the lack of funding or the shortage of teachers, John Taylor Gatto insists the problem goes deeper; we’ve turned our schools, he says, into “torture chambers.”
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I ACCEPT THIS award on behalf of all the fine teachers I’ve known over the years who’ve struggled to make their transactions with children honorable ones: men and women who are never complacent, always questioning, always wrestling to define and redefine endlessly what the word education should mean. A “Teacher of the Year” is not the best teacher around — those people are too quiet to be easily uncovered — but a standard-bearer, symbolic of these private people who spend their lives gladly in the service of children. This is their award as well as mine.

We live in a time of great social crisis. Our children rank at the bottom of nineteen industrial nations in reading, writing, and arithmetic. The world’s narcotic economy is based upon our own consumption of this commodity. If we didn’t buy so many powdered dreams, the business would collapse — and schools are an important sales outlet. Our teenage-suicide rate is the highest in the world — and suicidal kids are rich kids for the most part, not poor. In Manhattan, 70 percent of all new marriages last less than five years.

Our school crisis is a reflection of this greater social crisis. We seem to have lost our identity. Children and old people are penned up and locked away from the business of the world to an unprecedented degree; nobody talks to them anymore. Without children and old people mixing in daily life, a community has no future and no past, only a continuous present. In fact, the term “community” hardly applies to the way we interact with each other. We live in networks, not communities, and everyone I know is lonely because of that. In some strange way, school is a major actor in this tragedy, just as it is a major actor in the widening gulfs among social classes. Using school as a sorting mechanism, we appear to be on the way to creating a caste system, complete with untouchables who wander through subway trains begging and sleep on the streets.

I’ve noticed a fascinating phenomenon in my twenty-nine years of teaching — that schools and schooling are increasingly irrelevant to the great enterprises of the planet. No one believes anymore that scientists are trained in science classes, or politicians in civics classes, or poets in English classes. The truth is that schools don’t really teach anything except how to obey orders. This is a great mystery to me, because thousands of humane, caring people work in schools as teachers and aides and administrators, but the abstract logic of the institution overwhelms their individual contributions. Although teachers do care and do work very, very hard, the institution is psychopathic; it has no conscience. It rings a bell, and the young man in the middle of writing a poem must close his notebook and move to a different cell, where he learns that humans and monkeys derive from a common ancestor.

http://www.thesunmagazine.org/archives/937?page=1
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 12:30 PM
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1. Wow.
This is a come to Jesus moment for me.

Do people just FORGET that, for example, Jack Kerouac funded his writing with a football scholarship? That Fitzgerald was part of a class at Princeton that changed twentieth century writing? That Sylvia Plath was a Fulbright scholar?

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 12:46 PM
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4. "No one believes anymore that scientists are trained in science classes..."
right, john, they're cloned in secret laboratories.



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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 12:39 PM
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2. That would be...
...hero of the charter school and home-schooling movements John Taylor Gatto, right?

The enemy of your enemy is not automatically your friend.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 12:45 PM
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3. didja notice his nice dig at evolution - kids in "cells" re monkey/human ancestors lol
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 12:47 PM by msongs
"...move to a different cell, where he learns that humans and monkeys derive from a common ancestor."

i.e. kids forced to learn about evolution like they were trapped in prison.

Msongs
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 01:15 AM
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8. You misunderstand Gatto.
His point is that education in this country consists of a disconnected (or disjointed) curriculum in which teaching is divided into arbitrary time slices of no pedagogical benefit.

The "cells" imagery is that schools are used like a prison to keep children, like convicts, away from society at large.

From my experience teaching in an "inner city" school environment, I would say that Gatto is too polite in his comments.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:11 PM
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6. Hmm. I take back my comments - partially
I mis-read it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:31 PM
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7. Yep. Not a big Gatto fan here.
He's got some great ideas and then he goes off on a weird tangent into bizarre school world.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 01:26 PM
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10. Re: Your link
What do you find objectionable in the story that you linked. Seemed that the public school teachers appreciated what he had to say.
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Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 12:50 PM
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5. Interesting perspective
Although it is from 20 years ago, it still reads pretty fresh. Too little has changed, but one of his main thrusts (aside from the parental role) is for authentic learning opportunities and student-driven learning. Those are both still growing movements within the education world and arguably would be much farther along had we not got so involved in NCLB and standardized testing.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 01:09 PM
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9. This speech is about 20 years old.
Edited on Mon Jul-19-10 01:11 PM by FBaggins
He's done some compelling work since then. His Underground History of American Education is an interesting read.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 06:18 PM
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11. Teachers are not the problem with American schools
Privatizing the school system is not the answer. How many examples do we need to see to understand that government HAS to do some things, private companies cannot function without boom and bust cycles or rampant theft of public money. Anybody who thinks that handing our kids futures over to corporate raiders is a good idea is a fool or hasn't thought it through very well.

I agree with the OP that schools are the first link in the chain of an attempt to create a caste system here in America. Dumbing down the public is step one and it's worked so far by the looks of it.
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