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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 09:15 AM
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The Principal And The Paddle
One South Carolina educator used corporal punishment to turn around his struggling elementary school. Why he's so conflicted about it.
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The wooden paddle on principal David Nixon's desk is two feet long, with a handle wrapped in duct tape that has been worn down by age and use. He found it in a dusty cabinet in his predecessor's office at John C. Calhoun Elementary in Calhoun Hills, S.C., where Nixon has been the principal since 2006. He has no idea if the old principal ever used it, but now it sits in plain view for all visitors to see, including children who have been dismissed to his office. As punishment for a "major offense," such as fighting or stealing, students are told to place both hands on the seat of a leather chair and brace for what Nixon calls "a whippin'." Before he begins, though, he sits the child down for a quiet talk about why he, or she, is in trouble. He tries to determine if a deeper issue, such as a problem at home, might warrant a meeting with a counselor. If the child shows remorse, Nixon will often send him or her back to class without a spanking. Otherwise, he makes sure he is calm, and he makes sure his elbow is still. Then he delivers "three licks" to the child's rear end. If the child is a girl, then a female administrator does it. Some of the kids cry. Some are silent. Some want a hug. And after the child is sent back to class, still stinging, Nixon sits alone in his office and thinks about what the child has done, and what he has done. "If I could burn that paddle in my stove," Nixon says, "I would. This is the worst part of my job."

Before Nixon took over "John C," student behavior had gotten so bad that one teacher described it as "chaos." She eventually quit in disgust, pulled her own child from the school, and moved to a different one 45 minutes away. John C is located in a rural stretch of South Carolina near the Georgia border where all but one of the major textile plants have closed, and where the leading local employer is the school system. Nearly 90 percent of the kids at John C live below the poverty line. When Nixon went to his first PTO meeting, only about a dozen parents showed up at a school with 226 students. He still has trouble reaching many families by phone because they can't afford to put down a deposit on a landline. And yet Nixon has managed to turn John C around. It recently earned three statewide Palmetto awards, one for academic performance and two for overall improvement—the school's first such honors in its 35-year history. Not everyone agrees with his methods, but most parents and teachers will tell you he couldn't have pulled off such a turnaround without his wooden paddle.

Still, the mere fact that it works hasn't made spanking kids any easier for Nixon, who's no fire-breathing traditionalist. He's 31, a brownish-haired beanpole with a soft-spoken but determined manner. Married, with an 8-month-old daughter, he taught agriculture to high-school students for six years but had no prior administrative experience. He studied animal science at Clemson, served as state president of the Future Farmers of America, and raised 50 head of beef cattle on his ranch. In 2006, a family friend called about an opening at John C. The school, he heard, was "kind of in bad shape," but he took the job anyway.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/195119?Gt1=43002
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Stellabella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 09:18 AM
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1. Has anyone thought it may not be the paddle, but the conversation?
Did he sit those kids down for a 'quiet talk about why he, or she, is in trouble' before he brought out the paddle?

Hitting kids never solved anything.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:05 AM
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7. Both
To be effective, punishment must be seen to be fair. Discipline must be just and in a very real sense delivered with empathy. I have always thought that the problem with the corporal punishment common in my youth was not with the punishment itself, but in the manner of its delivery and administration. In short, relatively few administrators were capable of doing this effectively or justly. And, let's face it, at least some of 'em had sadistic tendencies.

I disagree (rather strongly) with the idea that "hitting kids never solved anything". One of my kids insisted on sticking forks in wall outlets, despite the zap he sometimes received. Reason didn't work. A few smacks on the butt did. From that experience evolved my rule for parental corporal punishment ... it was reserved for safety violations. If one of my kids did something they knew could put themselves or others at undue risk ... they were in for it! I explained this rule very carefully and relatively often. It was seldom invoked. Gratefully, both boys have made it to adulthood and have been to college.

Just my experience.

Trav
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 01:02 PM
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10. I used to run out in the street
We lived on a rural road, and my logic told me that 99% of the time there were no cars and no reason not to run out in the street.

Back then it all seemed so natural. You reached for the iron or the stove- your hand got smacked. You smarted off, your face got slapped. You run out in the street, your bottom gets spanked.


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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 05:00 PM
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11. It's essentially conditioning through fear. It's an old, old trend. I think it does fuck us up
Edited on Mon May-04-09 05:00 PM by groovedaddy
in ways that we do not understand and won't until, as a truly HUMAN race, we're much further down the evolutionary road.
Grab the hot item, you'll get burnt.
Smart off? Stick 'em the corner and let them think about it -or- take something away they truly value or want.
Run out in the road without looking? I'm gonna show you some fresh road kill to make the point:
this could be you - this possum didn't look!
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 09:35 PM
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13. And how many different ways do we try to excuse the present state of discipline
in the public schools? IN public in general?
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 08:02 AM
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14. There is a huge distinction between an explanation and an excuse.
An explanation may bring some amount of understanding and through that, possible solutions.
An excuse is, more often than not, a way of avoiding responsibility.
Discipline in schools is a problem, no doubt. The solution to that problem is open to debate.
In the short term, fear usually generates the results sought by those in authority. The long term effects, we're not so sure about. What is the mindset or paradigm that is created through justification of violence? And make no mistake about it, that's what the inflicting of pain is.
There are ways to discipline children without the use of violence/inflicting pain. They may take more time and creativity, but, in the long run, it may be worth it.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 09:19 AM
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2. I think this is a special case dealing with a community with
antiquated notions of child discipline. He is using a language understood by the children and parents in that particular school. What is needed is parental education to steer parents away from paddling.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 09:20 AM
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3. Of course this subject will create a firestorm
of comment. Perhaps it's an age thing,but when I was in school, this idea of a paddle was still in use and I got my share. I don't think it affected my self esteem or created physological problems. However, there are probably those who did have a nasty side effect. I also understand that it can be abused but I'm willing to bet that happens a small percentage of the time. With a little forethought corporal punishment can be effective.
Bottom line? I was told at home that if I got out of line at school, I would have to pay for it. I did, and I did. It was effective, imho.
:shrug:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 09:34 AM
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4. This should not be allowed, if the parents object...
What bothers me most about using corporal punishment on children, is the parents have no say, whether or not
their child is beat with a paddle. Either your state law allows it or it doesn't. If your state law does
allow children to be hit, then parents have no choice.

This is what I hate.

Parents who don't mind if their children are hit by teachers and principals--can participate if they want--but parents
who don't think it's a good idea for their child to be hit---need to have the freedom and right to opt out.

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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 09:35 AM
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5. I was paddled in school. I have no problem with it.
It's a very honest way of doing business- you misbehave, you get paddled, it's over. I really fail to see the superiority that is likely to be sent my way for my position on this.

I think one of the biggest misconceptions out there is that kids who come from bad-parenting homes are not disciplined at home. By and large punishment in such homes is swift and physical. Just because a parent doesn't teach his/her kid to read or be respectful, doesn't mean that they don't have rules and punish. When they do punish, it's usually physical and swift. When that kid gets to school and figures out that the teachers and staff can't spank him, the next thing you hear is "You can't touch me. You're not my mother. I'll call the police." If you have never been around these kinds of kids, then I don't think you have any idea of how defiant and belligerent they can be. We're not doing them any favors if they end up in a corrections facility.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 09:50 AM
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6. One sentence stood out for me...
John C isn't as bustling as typical elementary schools. The hallways are hushed as kids move wordlessly between classes, lined up single-file on the right side of each hallway, though they do bop and sashay in muted, youthful excitement.<

It says the kids are scared. Fear is not education.

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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 10:57 AM
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8. Fear is a tool of slovenly simpletons...
If you don't know how to be a leader, or if you don't know how to command respect with your intellect and creativity--you
resort to brute force.

So, then, when the kids will psychologically curl up into a fetal position--you can declare that you sit at the helm of "a well-disciplined
school where children rarely get into trouble." Then, the community and the administrators can lavish you with
accolades and "atta boys!"...because you're such a wonderful, amazing school administrator.

We are a sick, sick society if we think that brow-beating children into submission is good for society.

Children are CHILDREN! Sometimes they talk loud in the hallway. Sometimes they don't listen. They may even
forget to put away toys, or have disagreements with other children. Oh the horrors!!

Any teacher, principal or school administrator who doesn't have the intellect to understand children, should work somewhere else.

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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 12:57 PM
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9. I liked my elementary school
I went to a highly disciplined elementary school. We had FORTY kids in my fourth grade class and no discipline problems. We also learned by traditional teaching methods. Our teacher was an authority figure and we liked her and sought her approval. We went to the restroom in single file lines, in silence. We ate our lunch in silence (and peace). We went to recess after lunch and could run around and make noise- boys on one playground and girls on another, younger kids segregated from older kids. Parents "yard mothers" policed the playground while the nuns took a break.

It was a great school and I would wish any kid that experience. It was safe, it was quiet, it was orderly, and it worked.
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Stellabella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:27 PM
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15. You're right!
I missed that. But schools should be happy places, or, if not happy, at least not silent. Silence is fear.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:43 PM
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16. I helped start a Waldorf school in our community. What a great way to educate.
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Stellabella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 03:32 PM
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17. Thanks for that! My sister has her kids in a private school and it's not a good fit.
I'll pass this along to her.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 05:55 PM
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12. No way will I ever condone hitting kids at school
It's wrong. Period.
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