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Dez Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:43 AM
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Who is a drug war victm?
I wonder how many of you have been victimized by the drug war for cannabis? Or have any family members been victims? And if so, did jail sway you from using cannabis again? Did prison 'work' to keep you away from cannabis?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:47 AM
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1. Hey, I've gotta pull the shades down every time I roll a J
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 11:00 AM by SteppingRazor
That alone makes me a victim.

But in more serious matters, I do have a friend who got caught with a QP and did some time. He was released about two years ago. Last I heard (which was several months ago), he was still one of the best places in Kansas City to go to get kindbud. So, no, prison didn't stop him from selling weed.
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Dez Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:56 AM
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2. I've never been victimized
by the drug war , yet! *knock on wood* .. but I was curious to hear some stories from people who have had horrible experiences.. how it's impacted their lives.

I wonder how many prisons will they think will solve the 'drug problem'.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:10 AM
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5. The saddest part...
is the thousands of nonviolent drug offenders who are in prison simply on possession charges, especially marijuana possession. If I were president, I'd pardon every one of them.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:00 AM
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3. My friend had his volkswagon bus completely dismantled at the border...
coming back from Canada in 1985. He and I had been up there visiting my cousins. The border guards found nothing, but it still took us three days to put the thing back together because they had dismantled some of the engine and some of the parts had "disappeared". It was pathetic, it took them five hours to dismantle it and when they showed it to us it was spread over four parking spaces.

Assholes. Little people with a little bit of power cripple our society to it's core.
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Dez Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:06 AM
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4. That's disgusting!
You're right, they got some power, and they use it against whoever they choose.
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:37 AM
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6. I once made the mistake of saying:
"Not that I am aware of," rather than just plain "no," when asked if I was transporting any drugs, alcohol, tobacco or firearms into the country...

Two hours later, I was sill stripped to my boxers, waiting impatiently in a cold and windowless room as they went through my car with a fine toothed comb...

I had to put my seats, indicator lights, air filter, hubcaps. carpet, instrument bezel, etc back into the car before I could drive away...


These muthas have NO SENSE OF HUMOUR or decency...
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 02:29 PM
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7. WTF?
again...:wtf:?

:argh:
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macmed Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 12:19 PM
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12. border crossing
My wife is from Canada, and after visiting her parents in Canada and returning to the US, the border agent asks me if I have a birth certificate. I usually have it with me, but this time I left it at home and by golly if they didnt ask for it. I had voter registration card, drivers license, but no birth certificate. You would have thought I was a fugitive trying to sneak in. With my wife and 2 kids in the car, they know who is who. Just being Bush gods.
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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:49 PM
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8. Not for drugs
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 10:06 PM by Asgaya Dihi
I did four and a half years as a juvenile, believe it or not it started as skipping school just to avoid a gang problem and the State locked me up to "teach me a lesson".

All I ever learned was how to hate, how to fight a lot more effectively than before, soft spots on bodies, how to hotwire cars, and so on. Went in a kid that didn't want to hurt others and came out a criminal that spent the next few years doing little but hurting others. So no, it didn't do quite what they expected and what I learned wasn't what they wanted. Never actually got in trouble for anything I did do though, go figure. Took me years and the luck of meeting a decent lady to get myself straightened out.

Locking people up who aren't already dangerous is the most stupid thing they could possibly do, it's responsible for much of our crime. All you do is to turn soft kids hard, and hard people mean. What's the point of taking a harmless pot smoker or other drug user who's been employed and holding a job and forcing them to fight to defend themselves for a few years? How does that make them anything but meaner, less hopeful, and less caring about others?
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:02 PM
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9. No prison, but still something of a victim
I just had to pass up a job partially because I knew I could not pass a pre-hire drug test.

Not to mention the alienation, shame, and paranoia I have to feel every day.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:35 AM
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10. abused, but not a victem
I've been fortunate not to have run in to any legal issues for
smoking cannabis over 3 decades. But there is a subtle form of abuse
in that i have never ever, during that time, had the substances i use
tested or verfied for purity or quality. I am the enemy of the police,
and treat them subsequently as the enemy. They are paid bullys and
abusers of the state, and i can never forget that or let my guard down
around them ever.

I am not able to speak out about stupid cannabis laws in public, as the
police would suggest that advocating reform means i'm a drugs user
and take it as self incrimination. This sort of intimidation of
opposition is a form of abuse perpetrated by the drugs laws.

Ultimately, i am abused by the false moralizing of our society that
says: "Drugs are evil, if you take them, you are evil, and we will
punish you." I am not evil. Drugs are not evil. Moralists are evil.
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Bruce McAuley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:13 AM
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11. From victim to victor...
Busted in '88 with about 12 plants growing on our land. Served 1 day in jail and community service. They tried it again in 94, but we got the evidence thrown out because they violated our reasonable expectation of privacy(see Florida versus Murphy, a Supreme Court case that delineates such expectations).
Now we live in town, and we've already gotten assurances from the local police as to how many plants it would be "all right" to have at one time. My wife has a doctor's letter allowing her to use marijuana for her chronic muscle spasms.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice and I'm President Bush.
LOL

Bruce
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 01:40 PM
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13. I knew a fellow who basically lost his mind over a pound of pot.
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 01:40 PM by Jed Dilligan
He was on the phone in jail (doing a year minus a day) when a much larger inmate said his "privileges were revoked" and he had to get off. When my acquaintance protested, he was punched in the head repeatedly. The guards, who he said play video games all day, took hours to respond to him, and when he was treated he was treated with a band-aid.

Now he drifts in and out of sanity, hears things and can't drive b/c of the head injury.

On edit: he still smokes and deals.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:38 AM
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14. We all are
$40 billion a year to erode freedom and feed the police state while CAUSING crime and lowering the quality of life for all of us. What a deal!

So, where is the Democratic politician who will step up and say the emperor wears no clothes?

...still waiting

...still waiting

...yup, still waiting
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:40 AM
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15. Oh, okay, I am
I did nearly three years in state prison for selling a quarter pound of pot. I was out on bail awaiting sentencing when Bush the Elder got on TV and waved that bag of crack around and redeclared the war on drugs. Guess my judge was listenin'.

Now I get paid to work to end drug prohibition.

Funny how something like prison concentrates the mind.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:42 AM
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16. Oh, okay, I am
I did nearly three years in state prison for selling a quarter pound of pot. I was out on bail awaiting sentencing when Bush the Elder got on TV and waved that bag of crack around and redeclared the war on drugs. Guess my judge was listenin'.

Now I get paid to work to end drug prohibition.

Funny how something like prison concentrates the mind.
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