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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:10 PM
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If there were a safe, inexpensive, and 100% effective contraceptive that PREVENTED conception ...
then would there be less controversy about abortion?
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drmeow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:13 PM
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1. No (eom)
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:13 PM
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2. No.
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:14 PM
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3. No.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:15 PM
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4. NO!
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auntsue Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:15 PM
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5. Probably not - -
even a planned pregnancy can go wrong and cause complications that lead to a recommendation to end the pregnancy. AND certain people would still be opposed. Also some people are totally opposed top
contraception so the debate would rage on.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:17 PM
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6. They would then see the contraceptive as a form of abortion. The same
crap would go on because one is not dealing with rationale individuals.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 06:50 AM
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17. "They" already do.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:21 PM
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7. We already have methods that are pretty close.
And the controversy rages because it's about controlling women's sexual behavior not "life" for the anti-choice movement.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:14 PM
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12. Bingo, bingo, bingo.
I wish I could recommend your post a thousand times. :)
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 12:49 AM
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16. Thank you!
:)
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:22 PM
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8. That would be an aspirin tablet..
Held firmly between the knees. :evilgrin:

And before anyone starts, yes I know it's possible to have intercourse with the knees held together, just not in the missionary position.

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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:38 PM
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9. No. 'They' want an end to any sexual activity not producing embryo,
and to prosecute anyone doing otherwise.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:45 PM
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10. NO
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 10:50 PM
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11. no
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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:41 PM
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13. No......n/t
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:41 PM
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14. Would there be 100% certainty that those who the contraceptive was intended for would use it?
If you don't have that, then you have unwanted pregnancy. I've long hoped for a chemical means of male contraception, it might eliminate a lot of abortions.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:46 PM
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15. Good question.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 08:07 AM
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18. Women are fertile for about four decades. They spend most of that time trying to avoid pregnancy.
Many women use "effective" protection ineffectively. Others try to be abstinent and do so ineffectively.

"Many reliable methods of contraception exist to choose from, and when all else fails, we now have legal and safe abortion. Abortion is a crucial backstop for contraception, it’s the birth control method of last resort. It’s impossible for women to really control their fertility without access to abortion because no contraceptive is 100% effective, and because women can’t always access birth control or may not use it correctly. Of course, women have always tried to control their fertility in one way or another. Birth control has an ancient history, and some early natural methods were actually quite effective, including crocodile dung and honey placed in the vagina as a barrier method, a tea made from beaver testicles boiled in alcohol, and half a squeezed lemon used as a diaphragm. Also, women have always resorted to abortion, in every era and every culture. But it’s been clandestine, and often unsafe. As long as it was hidden, it didn’t really exist, so it wasn’t an issue for male authority."

From: http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/paternity-patriarchy-reproductive-rights.html Joyce Arthur - far and away my favorite writer on women's reproductive rights.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 04:29 PM
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19. No, because we uppity women just luvs getting preggers so we can kill our unborn kids
what with being so passive aggressive and all, it makes us happy AND it is sooooooooo much simpler and easier and much convenient than using condoms or having a period since we can schedule it too!
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:56 PM
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20. If it were available to everyone; and there was enough education about it.
You know, something you could buy as easily as a pack of cigarettes, bottle of beer, or a soda. I think we would go a long way towards making "choice" a moot point.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 05:58 PM
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22. Why do you put choice in quotes? Do you really want the only choice to be an illegal unhygienic
abortion? Unless you are rich or powerful enough to afford to go your own doctor? Do you seriously want (as you put it) "choice" of having a medical abortion not be there, have the only choice a dirty back alley one?

Why do you put choice in quotes?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 05:53 PM
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21. Are anti-choicers allowed to post in this forum?
Honest question.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 05:59 PM
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23. Yes, unfortunately they are.
there is the pro-choice group for a place where they aren't.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 06:14 PM
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24. hrmph
Noted and added that group to my forums.

Thanks.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 04:07 PM
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25. About the closest you can get to 100% effective
is dual (male and female partners) sterilizations. However, this is only for those who don't any/more children.

I doubt the anti choice people even like this because to them "sex has CONSEQUENCES", as in babies. If you "beat" the consequences, whether from using BC or being infertile, then they think you shouldn't be having sex at all I suppose.

I think it goes way beyond abortion from listening to some of these people.
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