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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:46 PM
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The Pill Kills 2008 - Protests for June 7th -anniversary of Griswold vs Connecticut
Join young people across the country on Protest the Pill Day '08: The Pill Kills Babies on June 7 and witness outside of clinics that distribute this killing poison.



http://thepillkills.com/



Is there any question what the anti-abortion crowd's REAL intent is?
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 04:54 PM
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1. they are against sex
and anti-woman...no doubt about it.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:58 AM
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7. from that website... (I went so you don't have to)...
"a man who grows accustomed to the use of contraceptive methods may forget the reverence due to a woman, and... reduce her to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of his own desires, no longer considering her as his partner whom he should surround with care and affection."

"sexual activity outside of marriage is seriously wrong."

"Planned Parenthood has "a vested interest in lying to young women because they exploit them."
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 10:39 AM
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8. I'm always baffled by the Planned Parenthood exploits women argument.
And the pill makes men forget having "reverence" for women?

Have these people never met any women who actually are comfortable with and enjoy their sexuality despite what Planned Parenthood and men have to think about it?
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:28 PM
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2. ......
:eyes: :eyes:
Oh Lord - save me from your followers.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:38 PM
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3. They Only Need One More Supreme Court Justice and They'll Overturn Roe AND Griswold
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:49 PM
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4. as I tell people repeatedly, at the heart of every single anti-choice argument
whether moral, religious, whatever, lies a profound hatred for women. each and every argument says that someTHING (zygote, church or state) or someONE (the sperm donor, is more important than the woman.

they hate women, they hate the fact that women can, and DO enjoy sex, and they hate the fact that women are entitled to decide what to do with their own bodies. patriarchy has a lot to answer for.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:55 PM
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5. yes. There was some debate about this topic at Salon last week.
You could really tell that some people wanted to drive home the point that the pill sometimes expels a fertilized egg and were outraged that women all over America weren't willing to just give them up.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 04:42 PM
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12. They always lose the WOMAN in that debate, have you noticed?
The very fact that she's taking the pill states she doesn't want to release an egg that month, let alone allow it to implant, yet her wishes and her planning are ignored in favor of something that cannot see, hear, think or feel.

The anti choice far right are the ones who are trying to reduce half the human race to the status of animated flowerpots, unthinking receptacles fit only to germinate male seed and with no rights of their own.

If that's what they mean by cherishing us, well let me be cursed.

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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 12:58 PM
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13. cherish - there's a concept
laughable when I think of all the women I've known who would have been better off if left to their own devices.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:50 AM
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6. The pill kills babies? Are they really that ignorant?
Edited on Tue May-13-08 12:57 AM by uppityperson
I visited the website and found these tidbits:
Everyone should know the deadly consequences of the pill and similar contraceptive products- they cause chemical abortions. Therefore, American Life League, along with Pro-Life Wisconsin and Pharmacists for Life International Associate groups, calls all pro-lifers across the country to speak out on Protest the Pill Day '08: The Pill Kills Babies, scheduled for the Griswold anniversary of Saturday, June 7. We encourage you to gather with your friends for peaceful protests in front of facilities that distribute birth control products.

Planned Parenthood often promotes June 7 as a day of celebration because it can now sell birth control to young girls. American Life League crashed Planned Parenthood's 2005 Pill Party. Click here to see a video of our success there in spreading the truth about the pill:

From the beginning, the pill has been an abortifacient, meaning it can cause abortions.

Using statistical estimates of the number of chemical, medical and surgical abortions combined, computed by a biostatistician and an environmental epidemiologist, both at the University of Pittsburgh, along with an Ohio State University technical consultant and Bogomir M. Kuhar, a pharmacist, American Life League computed the following estimates for chemical abortions alone, from 1973 to 2003:


* During this period, approximately 6,605,000 to 11,725,000 chemical abortions occured in the United States annually.

* During this period, a total of 196,325,000 to 324,325,000 chemical abortions wiped out the equivalent of the entire United States population!



How it works:
The birth control pill works in three ways:

1. It can prevent the release of an egg from the ovary (ovulation). However, while using the pill, women can and do experience breakthrough ovulation - meaning that an egg is released from the ovary and is available to be fertilized by the sperm.

2. It also causes the cervical mucus to thicken, making it difficult for the sperm to reach the egg. It is possible, though, for the sperm to break through the mucus and to fertilize the egg.

3. It also changes the lining of the uterus. This makes it difficult, if not impossible, for the five- to seven-day-old baby to attach to the lining, where he/she would receive the nourishment needed to grow. If the baby does not successfully attach to the lining, he/she dies and is expelled from the body during menstruation. This process is known as a chemical abortion. The fact that it can occur as a result of taking birth control pills is why the pill is referred to as an abortifacient.


Finally, remember this: "a man who grows accustomed to the use of contraceptive methods may forget the reverence due to a woman, and... reduce her to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of his own desires, no longer considering her as his partner whom he should surround with care and affection."
And this: sexual activity outside of marriage is seriously wrong.
And this: Planned Parenthood has "a vested interest in lying to young women because they exploit them."
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 12:31 PM
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9. Since when is a blastocyst more important than a living breathing woman?
Oh yeah, that's right.

A blastocyst that hasn't implanted in the uterine lining and that has no undifferentiated cells and that you need a microscope to see has always been considered to be more important than these people's mothers. And sisters. And daughters. And neighbors.

These are the same people who want their daughters to die of cervical cancer instead of getting a vaccine that will prevent it (100% effective according to every study)

These are the same people who would rather see women die of ovarian cancer than take an easy option to reduce the risk by nearly 50%. Take the Pill for 5 or more years and you've significantly reduced your risk of getting ovarian cancer. This is a type of cancer that is almost never detected in time and the survival rate is very low.

The health and happiness of women doesn't count to them. They consider us to barely be human in their eyes. Especially if they equate preventing a pregnancy with killing a small child.

Birth control pills remain the most effective form of birth control. There is still a failure rate, but it's pretty small. We need all the facts on every method of birth control, with failure rates, how to use, how to combine to increase effectiveness further.

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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:25 PM
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10. In a sneaky-mean way, I kind of revel in their inability to understand that some of us
Edited on Tue May-13-08 07:25 PM by Iris
really don't care when life starts. I mean, seriously, I live in the real world. I don't NEED to be responsible for the 10-24 kids I COULD have given birth to since I started having sex. I don't think they can even fathom that a woman could be perfectly happy to NOT be responsible for each and every potential life that could form in the vicinity of her womb.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 04:21 PM
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11. They also assume that every woman
with a wedding band on has no need for birth control. Oh, yeah. We all want to have 10 kids in exchange for that ring.

I second what you said. I don't care about all those fertilized egg "babies" who may have gone down the toilet, whether naturally or not. My living, BREATHING children meant far more to me than any zygote.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:23 PM
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21. They are not content to have their own quivers full of "babies".
They want to force every marriage to be a "quiverfull" marriage. And they want to be able to stone unmarried pregnant women to death (AFTER they give birth, of course).

Never underestimate these people. They are biblical literalists, dominionists, who see the world of The Handmaid's Tale as their life's dream.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:17 PM
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20. I started on the pill at age 17 and finally quit at age 48. I never once got
pregnant. I call that 100% effective.

Of course, the anti-choicers would say that I conceived and murdered 374 babies in that time.

Hey, I could win the Guiness World Record for worst babykiller EVER!!!!!! YAY!!!!!
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 10:57 AM
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14. The next extension of thier "logic"
says that if every woman does not make every effort to become pregnant with each and every available ovulation, then she is killing those babies that could have been.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 06:52 AM
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16. jeez - just imagine how it would be for men
trying to find an egg for each and every sperm
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 03:15 PM
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15. Is anyone else as angry as I am?
I've hated the anti-choice crowd for a long time now. But I actually felt guilty about it, at times, because I couldn't really put a finger on my hatred. I questioned myself. Why would I care about what they do with their bodies? And as much as I was disgusted by their campaigns, I made the assumption that even if I thought they were wrong, it was actually their right to do under the law. And I felt the only thing I could do was speak the truth. Truth would win out.

But now, to actually witness their intentional hate campaign come to fruition, yet again, with Dr. Tiller. To hear from people who were part of their campaign's conception more than 30 years ago - the brainwashing, the guilt games, the intentional outcomes... I am seething.

Everything I always thought they were, they are. There is no lesser word than evil to describe these people. They hate women. They hate that women have the ultimate power to bring forth life. They hate their disability, and the only way they can deal with it is to control and punish us for it.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 06:53 AM
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17. yes, I'm angry. And partly I'm angry that others aren't.
Why are people so seemingly apathetic? I mean I know this is a sensitive issue, but why can't people see this as an intrusion at it's most basic level?
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 04:03 PM
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18. some nutcase in the grocery store had on a bright, neon lime
green t-shirt with their spew on it....

i wanted to say something to her, like "even stupid people are entitled to their opinions," but i didn't. i'm a chicken.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:06 PM
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19. I've been saying that their real target all along was Griswold.
People have been laughing at me for 15-20 years. Look who's laughing now.
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