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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:40 PM
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students protest pharmacist's refusal to give EC to rape survivor
Students Protest Pharmacist's Refusal to Give Rape Survivor EC
More than 70 students, community members, and local politicians held a demonstration outside of Fry's Food and Drug Store in Tucson, Arizona, yesterday to protest its refusal to fill a rape survivor's prescription for emergency contraception (EC). The 20-year-old unnamed woman and a friend told the Arizona Daily Star that they tried calling “nearly 50” pharmacies before they found one that stocked EC, but then the Fry’s pharmacist on duty by the time they could get there would not fill the prescription on so-called religious and moral grounds.

“I was so shocked,” the unnamed woman told the Star. “I just did not understand how they could legally refuse to do this … I just don’t think this should be the pharmacist’s decision.” The two women said that the Fry’s manager on duty said he would fill the prescription if they could get there within ten minutes before his shift ended, which was unfeasible, but offered no referral to another pharmacy, as required by Fry’s corporate policy, the Star reports. A Fry’s spokeswoman told the Star that the manager did offer to make a referral.

The protest was led by the Network of Feminist Student Activists, a student group at the University of Arizona affiliated with the Feminist Majority Foundation. The protest was co-sponsored by Students for Choice, University of Arizona’s Women’s Studies Department, Wingspan (Southern Arizona’s LGBT Community Center), Refuse and Resist Tucson, National Lawyers Guild U of A chapter, CODEPINK Tucson, and the Feminist Majority Foundation.

http://www.msmagazine.com/news/uswirestory.asp?id=9356
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:41 PM
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1. it'smore than time to rage against the machine!
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:43 PM
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2. This should be a crime.
In fact, I would go so far as to charge the pharmacist who refuses such with aiding and abetting rape.

Hey, he's guaranteeing that the rapist is, biologically speaking, successful. He's passed on his genes, and that's the only biological success that ultimately counts.

This pharmacist aided him in that. He deserves to spend time in jail for it.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:45 PM
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3. you have quite a point there, and it is something I will point out to our
local fundie pharmas.

have you ever noticed that no pharmacist has ever refused a viagra prescription?
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:19 AM
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11. I think the pharmacist should also
Edited on Mon Oct-31-05 12:21 AM by koopie57
be held accountable for the raising and financial costs of bringing up child if there is one. And if the woman dies in childbirth, he is charged with murder.

opps, sorry, for some reason the rest of these posts didn't load for me the first time around.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:03 AM
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24. A lawsuit for wrongful birth is just as valid as one for wrongful
death, IIRC.

Sue the bastards for 18 years of child support, plus a whopping bonus for punitive damages!!!!!!!
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:50 AM
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20. Good point.
People should definatly look at rape as a genetic crime, in addition to the trauma inflicted on the survivor. If one were to give artificially inseminate a mass amount of girls in a painless way, damn strait its a crime, and everybody would see it.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:48 PM
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4. infuriating

this sickens me. the woman has to deal w/ the physical/emotional trauma as it is and now to be treated like the character in The Scarlet Letter? Sanctimonious bastards!
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:49 PM
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5. The pharmacists
need to pay child support if a child is born due to their stupidity. Or be made to adopt it.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:04 AM
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10. Yep. Child support for 18 years, plus a college education as
punitive damages.

Bastards.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:50 PM
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6. do they have an oath?
Do they not have a legal contract to provide health care?

This is outrageous.
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:53 PM
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7. I believe this is only the beginning
Don't want to be an alarmist but I think women are in for the surprise of their lives. Not only will abortion for incest and rape be curtailed but contraceptives will be restricted also.

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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:56 PM
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8. various fundie groups have been trying for years to outlaw not only
abortion, but all forms of contraception as well. we are not that far away from "the handmaid's tale"
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:26 AM
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12. I think women are in for the surprise of their lives
I agree. While this may be extreme, I can also see us eventually having to be escorted by males. For our own "safety". Burquas will be next. I can see this big fear campaign directed toward women. Fear of cervical cancer due to sex, fear of not being able to access contraceptives if raped, fear if your husband or boyfriend is plotting to have you killed. Fear of our daughters being abducted. These images and messages are constant on the television.
Have you ever watched Lifetime? Some psycho dude is always out to kill a woman. Most foresensic shows are of dead women being killed by lovers/husbands/psychos. The news is always focused on at least one missing woman/girl, or a husband/lover that just killed his wife.

I don't think this is coincidental. But, I will admit to being a tin foil hat type.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:10 PM
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25. "see us eventually having to be escorted by males"
Lots of women already live that way. On thousands of campuses across the country, young women are encouraged to call security to request an escort back to their dorm rooms late at night.
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benevolent dictator Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:49 PM
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26. Because otherwise they'd have to teach them self-defense
or something, and we can't have women defending themselves.

Actually, the university I attend has a self-defense class that they run free to all women in the community at least once a year (may be more, but I don't know.) I attended the last one and there were more than 60 people there. Most sessions have between 20 and 30 people, they said, so it was very unusual. Maybe it's a sign that women are waking up to the fact that they aren't helpless? Maybe?
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:09 AM
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19. Fundies would like too have abortionists charged w/1st degree murder
and any medical assistants charged with accomplice to murder. Welcome to the 13th century.

excerpt from Ingersoll's Heretics and Heresies
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/heretics_and_hericies.html

Give any orthodox church the power, and to-day they would punish heresy with whip, and chain, and fire. As long as a church deems a certain belief essential to salvation, just so long it will kill and burn if it has the power. Why should the church pity a man whom her God hates? Why should she show mercy to a kind and noble heretic whom her God will burn in eternal fire? Why should a Christian be better than his God? It is impossible for the imagination to conceive of a greater atrocity than has been perpetrated by the church. Every nerve in the human body capable of pain has been sought out and touched.

Let it be remembered that all churches have persecuted heretics to the fullest extent of their power. Toleration has increased only when and where the power of the church has diminished. From Augustine until now the spirit of the Christians has remained the same. There has been the same intolerance, the same undying hatred of all who think for themselves, and the same determination to crush out of the human brain all knowledge inconsistent with an ignorant creed...

In those days the cross and rack were inseparable companions. Across the open Bible lay the sword and fagot. Not content with burning such heretics as were alive, they even tried the dead, in order that the church might rob their wives and children. The property of all heretics was confiscated, and on this account they charged the dead with being heretical -- indicted, as it were, their dust -- to the end that the church might clutch the bread of orphans. Learned divines discussed the propriety of tearing out the tongues of heretics before they were burned, and the general opinion was, that this ought to be done so that the heretics should not be able, by uttering blasphemies, to shock the Christians who were burning them. With a mixture of ferocity and Christianity, the priests insisted that heretics ought to be burned at a slow fire, giving as a reason that more time was given them for repentance...

According to the theologians, God, the Father of us all, wrote a letter to his children. The children have always differed somewhat as to the meaning of this letter. In consequence of these honest differences, these brothers began to cut out each other's hearts. In every land, where this letter from God has been read, the children to whom and for whom it was written have been filled with hatred and malice. They have imprisoned and murdered each other, and the wives and children of each other. In the name of God every possible crime has been committed, every conceivable outrage has been perpetrated. Brave men, tender and loving women, beautiful girls, and prattling babes have been exterminated in the name of Jesus Christ. For more than fifty generations the church has carried the black flag. Her vengeance has been measured only by her power. During all these years of infamy no heretic has ever been forgiven. With the heart of a fiend she has hated; with the clutch of avarice she has grasped; with the jaws of a dragon she has devoured; pitiless as famine, merciless as fire, with the conscience of a serpent: such is the history of the Church of God.

Anti-Religious Lectures of Robert G. Ingersoll
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/index.html




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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:57 PM
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9. Let's deny one of the pharmacist's prescriptions
See how he likes it.

Because every pharmacist needs to defend the "rights of the rapist." :sarcasm:

Vile.

:mad: :grr: :nuke: :thumbsdown: :rant:

Ign'ant, ign'ant, ign'ant...
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:35 AM
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13. Either fill all legal prescriptions or find a new line of work,bastards
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 01:04 AM
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14. You would think .. nt
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 01:16 AM
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15. It would not happen here....
if it did we would all be protesting at the location.

But then this is the SFBA. Bring it on.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 01:24 AM
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16. This country has gone to hell in a hand basket.
Edited on Mon Oct-31-05 01:24 AM by Vektor
We are in the dark ages again. America is a sinking ship, weighed down by wacko oppressive fundies, drowning in a quagmire of ignorance.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:05 AM
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18. Good way to put it
:applause:
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:02 AM
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17. AFAIK, this was not covered on the local news in Tucson
not one word on the tee-vee. Of course, I don't watch all the shows on tee-vee, so I might have missed it.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 08:05 AM
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21. Contact info for Fry's Drug store
To send us your comment or questions:

E-mail us by clicking into our Customer Comments form.
http://www.frysfood.com/customercomments.htm

Call us at:
(623) 936-2100


Mail us at:
Fry's Food Stores of Arizona, Inc.
500 S. 99th Ave.
Tolleson, AZ 85353

-------

If you want to contact the parent company as well go here:

http://www.kroger.com/customercomments.htm

Call us at: 1-866-221-4141

Mail us at:
1014 Vine Street
Cincinnati, Ohio 45202-1100




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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:26 AM
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22. This is terrible, but hasn't she heard of Planned Parenthood?
Seriously. Surely Planned Parenthood has a presence in Tucson. I don't understand why this student didn't go to them for the EC.

I don't say this as criticism. I just think it strange that women don't remember to use their services.

Women - take note: if you need EC and can't get it from your pharmacy, CALL PLANNED PARENTHOOD for HELP!
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 07:43 PM
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23. I Am So Fucking Mad!!!
:mad:
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