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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 12:48 PM
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Hmmm...Kurt Warner for MVP...hmmm....
....I keep hearing that from the "experts," but as far as I'm concerned Arizona and Kurt doing well only because they are in the most-God-awful division in more years than I can recall.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 03:35 PM
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1. I can't stand Kurt Warner...
he was officially dead to me when he appeared in those anti-stem cell ads back in 06...and yeah he's in a shit division
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 06:29 PM
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4. I try not to let an athlete's politics sway me because the odds are
I won't agree with them...but Kurt really is about as far to the right as you can get...worse than Curt Schilling, a famous Repuke, but I haven't actually heard any actual beliefs out of him, just always campaigning for any Repuke.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 04:17 PM
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2. I hope not .. he was really into the praise Jesus shit when he
was with St. Louis, and that was a HUGE turn-off for me.

I didn't watch yesterday's game, but didn't he have a terrible outing against Philly?

He didn't look that spectacular when AZ played the 49ers a couple of weeks ago either.

In fact, it wouldn't surprise me to see the Cardinals collapse down the stretch, even though they'll still win the division because everyone else is so pathetic.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 06:28 PM
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3. He did ok, basically solid...
...but if Arizona had to play teams outside their division each week he wouldn't even be considered.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 06:56 PM
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5. Lets see what Drew Brees does Sunday in Tampa Bay
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 07:34 PM
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6. I'd pick Brees first, but Warner is having a great year.
But unless the Cards make the playoffs I can't see picking him. On the other hand, if the Cards make it and the Aints don't then that could swap positions.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 10:16 PM
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7. you can't
have a player on a losing team win the mvp. He puts up great numbers, but hasn't won enough.

I think Peyton Manning or Favre will end up winning the award.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 10:41 PM
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8. I agree with that.
If neither Brees or Warner lead their team to the playoffs I don't think either one should win it. I feel that way about the MVP in every sport.

I almost hope Favre gets it, just for the fun it would create here. :evilgrin:
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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 03:23 PM
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9. What losing team?
They're 7-5 currently. Yet you would give the MVP to Peyton Manning with an 87.2 QB rating? Kurt Warner has my vote. He's a champion. He wins not because the division is weak but because he has great receivers (as he did in St. Louis) that understand the schemes and passing patterns that the coach lays out for them. I totally disagree with Kurt on politics and religion (must he mention Jesus in EVERY interview?). But I don't judge athletes on where they stand politically while they're on the field. Off the field, when they are retired, it's a different story (boo Steve Largent, hooray Heath Shuler).
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 07:12 PM
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10. I dont think Kurt should get it
The last two weeks the cards have been awful. Still if he takes the cards to the superbowl, who knows?
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:44 PM
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11. why not Brett Favre?
really, has any one player this year come to a team and totally re-shaped them the way Favre has the Jets this year?
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