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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:17 AM
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So What's Your Take On The Singletary Eruption?
I'm ok with it. There are enough "too cool for school" coaches in the NFL. As a Bear fan, i always liked his passion. This is just an example of it, i think.

Just wondering what others thought of it.
The Professor
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:19 AM
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1. Yes, his intensity - those eyes! - are what he brought to the game that was unique in its...
degree.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:43 AM
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2. Loved it. That team needs a kick in the ass.
I'd love to play for a coach with that kind of intensity.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 09:15 AM
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3. Awesome.
My wise friend said Singletary needed to establish his ground rules (play to win or you won't play) quickly.
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 09:34 AM
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4. That outburst after the game was old school.
I loved it! Maybe if more coaches were as fiery, you wouldn't see as many players half-assing it on the field.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:01 AM
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5. He did the right thing. I like Mike, win or lose.
He established his authority. The Quarterback needed to be benched and spoiled brat Vernon Davis needed spanking. Singletary is kicking ass and taking names.

I'll give some credit to Mike Martz (O.C.) for supporting his head coach (so far, at least). He adjusting the play-calling for back-up QB Shaun Hill. Hill performed admirably in the second half.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:24 PM
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6. We'll know in a few weeks.
If this team suddenly starts playing better, even if they don't win more than a game or two, we'll know it had an effect. This looks like the kind of situation where a coach really could light a fire under some of these guys.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:58 PM
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7. I think he had a long-term issue with Vernon Davis.
Davis did a dumb thing, and since he's generally perceived as an under achiever, he was singled out as exemplifying the attitude that has led to the current state of the 49ers. What Singletary said was, "There's a new sheriff in town". That kind of change in attitude is exactly what is needed. Accountability is a good thing.
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Aragorn Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 07:34 PM
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8. Cowboys fan
Wish "coach" Phillips would do this! 13 pro-bowlers return, team is barely 5-3?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:01 PM
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9. It's about time.
He said everything that needed to be said.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:39 PM
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10. Mt Singeltary? It erupted? The mountain in Alaska's Abasorka Range?
Hee-hee...saw a photo of the coach somewhere and he looked kind of crazed...good for him.
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:39 PM
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11. Hehe..yep.. here she blows!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 07:52 PM
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17. I was blocked from seeing this at work...it's great...thanks...
...well, you learn something new everyday. I personally thought the 49'ers were a charity, but Mike says no.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 02:49 AM
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12. I think discipline is generally bullshit
Fans thrill to that type of crap. For some reason they love sporting examples of the brass in charge, shouting down employees. No doubt the salary realities are a primary factor.

But the NFL is remarkably boring with bland head coaches so I was a big fan of the Singletary promotion long before this episode. I hope he succeeds so we are treated to more examples. I can't even name some of the head coaches, which would have been unheard of for me in the '70s or '80s.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:05 AM
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13. Sort Of Amplified My Reaons Awsi
The plainness of most coaches means there's certainly room for coaches like Samurai Mike.
GAC
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 11:43 AM
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15. Depends on the way that discipline is enacted.
And whether a team truly needs it. I think discipline can be instilled without being an ass to the players (Belichick is a good example).

My feeling is that 3/4 of professional athletes don't really need that much discipline anyways, but there are cases (and SF is one of them) where it's needed just to get off the ground and establish a basic code of play, and an attitude needed to play that way.

Coughlin is a interesting case. He's known as a total hard ass, but look what he did last year. The Giants needed it to get to where they are, and now that they've had some success Coughlin is starting to relax a bit (by his standards anyways). The team doesn't need that type of discipline as much now, and I think he realizes that you can only take that so far before the players will just start tuning you out. And if a coach is like that and doesn't win then they tune him out even faster, so it can backfire easily.

Some coaches are just dicks though.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 11:41 AM
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14. He needs to follow this up by killing, dismembering and burying the entire 49ers ownership
The team will be much better for it.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:59 PM
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16. Well, There's A Good Idea!
However, i think he got the job because someone in management wanted to bring the heat. They could have hired anyone to do this job as a temp.

They wanted someone to come in to kick ass. That's what he did and it's exactly what SOMEONE wanted. (Although with that ownership it can't imagine who that'd be.)
GAC
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 09:02 PM
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18. Professor, do you remember when Papa Bear hired Ditka?
I first really became aware of pro football and the Bears in the 60's. I was born in 1954 but was a baseball fan mainly and didn't pay attention to the Bears until the late 60's, Jim Dooley was head coach and they sucked! (I went through grade school with Lisa Dooley and in 1st grade flirted with her by pretending to throw bugs on her, I late learned my parents and Jim and his wife played bridge together often.) Then it was Abe Gibron and they still sucked. Pardee has some modest success but that just brought him a better job offer the old man would not match Nneeiilll Armstrong was totally uninspiring....

Then Ditka came in, young guy, not really enough experience on the resume for the position... Soon broke his hand punching a locker after a loss, not his best moment... But Papa bear trusted him and Mike weeded out the team real damn quick and was not shy about who he got rid of... In a matter of 3 years he DID turn them into champions, the additude of the entire organization changed... let me state a caveat, Ditka became a parody of himself, I became more politically aware later on and abhor his meatball mentality, but there is no denying the turn around of an entire organization in short term, 3 years...

hahaha, and my point is, Iron Mike is going that route, shake the foundations loose, ESPECIALLY if the foundations are used to the norm. Shake it ALL up! I respect Singletary alot, met him once by chance at Kmart xmas shopping when Lake Zurich had a Kmart... He is a good guy and I hope he thrives, I thinks he will, he is not a meatball....
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:32 AM
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20. I'm With You
Some big shot in 49ers land wanted an asskicker as coach. They now have one.
GAC
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 10:41 AM
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19. And making way for Condi Rice!!!!! She's all yours, Bill P!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 12:58 PM
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21. Mine? Pshaw, I'm a cheatin'-ass Patriots fan. The Niners can have her.
She'll have the practice squad invading the loge seating looking for hidden stores of Tinactin. Talk about out of the frying man and into the fire, that 49ers organization can not get out of their own way.

And, P.S., isn't San Francisco, like, the most liberal city in America or something? Condi's gonna go over like a pregnant pole-vaulter with her new neighbors. What a bad x bad x stupid x wha? x bad idea.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 09:48 PM
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24. How does a fan cheat??
Or is your use of cheatin-ass an adjective relative to the team of your choice? Or are you just blathering on because right and wrong continue to be lost on you? I've not quite identified the type of meetings you need to attend Will. But keep posting.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 01:33 PM
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25. Stay classy, champ.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 05:31 AM
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26. I will help with the burying. Even if I have to use my
bare hands.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:30 PM
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22. In the Navy we always found value in being exposed to different Leadership styles
I think the Niner headshed has gotten a lot of Value out of Mike. And if his players pay attention, their gain by being exposed to Mike will be much more valuable then wins and losses.
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dakota_democrat Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:42 PM
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23. It's fine by me
What, are the 49ers going to react negatively to it and get worse?
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 05:33 AM
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27. And now we learn he dropped his pants during halftime
to illustrate that the team was getting their asses kicked by the lowly Seahawks.

What a fuckin trainwreck this organization is.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:19 PM
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28. Yes, but he left his boxers on
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 04:38 AM
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29. Is that just information or justification? I mean, I don't think it's
a huge, huge deal per se.

But Five time World Champion San Francisco 49er coaches shouldn't need to show their boxers to win.

I seriously doubt Bill Walsh or George Seifert would ever dream of such a thing. Or Mariucci, for that matter.

I just think it's a sign of how far down in the sewer this organization is, without a rope.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 11:37 AM
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30. Just info. Turns out it was leaked against Singletary's wishes too.
49ers Coach wants to know who bared his secret

SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE, 11-1-08:

What happens in an NFL locker room generally stays in that locker room. Coaches and players are apt to say some wild things when the doors are closed to the media.

When something is said or done that is potentially embarrassing to somebody, it's rarely leaked to the media - but that's what happened when word of Mike Singletary's pants-dropping moment was reported on a Phoenix sports-talk show Wednesday morning.

In an interview with ESPN Radio 1000 in Chicago on Friday, the 49ers' coach expressed frustration that the episode was leaked to the media.

"It's unfortunate," he said. "We will find out who is leaking information out of the locker room because what happens in the locker room should be sacred and stay there."

LINK: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/31/SP9F13S4IL.DTL

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Go get 'em, Mike
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