More Barry Bonds hate.

[cboy4]

Players' association says teams acted in concert to not sign Bonds

NEW YORK -- The baseball players' union says it has found evidence teams acted in concert against signing Barry Bonds but it reached an agreement with the commissioner's office to delay the filing of any grievance.

The union expressed concern in May about the lack of offers to the home run king. Filing a grievance would trigger proceedings before arbitrator Shyam Das.

Union general counsel Michael Weiner confirmed the deal with Major League Baseball, which was first reported by murraychass.com.

"There were numerous things that occurred that made me believe that the clubs were acting in concert," Bonds' agent, Jeff Borris, said Thursday. "When I testify as a witness in the case, I will delineate each and every one of them."

Bonds was indicted last Nov. 15 on charges related to 2003 grand jury testimony during which he denied knowingly using performance-enhancing drugs. No team signed Bonds when he became a free agent after the 2007 season.

"We have the agreement about the timing of a potential grievance," Weiner said. "Our investigation revealed a violation of the Basic Agreement. It's a violation of the Basic Agreement related to Barry Bonds and free agency."

Weiner said the section that had been violated was Article XX (e) of the collective bargaining agreement, which states, in part: "Players shall not act in concert with other players and clubs shall not act in concert with other clubs." Weiner would not say how long the agreement runs to allow the union to file a grievance.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3647779

[TZ]

1. I'm sorry but its karma. Or the golden rule. Or something

No one with ANY sense feels sympathy for this jackass. He's brought ALL his problems on himself.
If you weren't such a homeer you would see that.
And since he's still plenty rich and can probably hire a good enough lawyer to beat the indictment (although he's most likely guilty IMO), there is NO reason to feel sorry for this egomaniac.
To me he's the pacman jones of baseball.

[cboy4]

2. The Pacman Jones of baseball? In all seriousness, how can

you write such a comparison?

That's like saying Martha Stewart is the OJ Simpson of talk show hosts because she went to prison.

Bonds has not been found guilty of committing and crime or breaking a single MLB rule.

Of course I'm a homer, like any good fan is.

But the hatred for Bonds has been over the top for a long time, and that's what's forced me to become ultra-defensive of the guy who brought a lot of joy to San Francisco.

Just because he's an egomaniac is no excuse for comparing him to another athlete who's constantly in trouble with the law, or hating him like a serial killer.

[TZ]

6. Why don't you read about how he dealt with his ex girlfriend

There are INDEED similarities between this guy and OJ (ie possible domestic abuse).
I'm sorry he's a jerk and a scumbag and he HAS admitted breaking the law ("flaxseed oil") which while not technically cheating in baseball is certainly illegal in the US.

[cboy4]

8. Listen to you. "Possible" domestic abuse. "Not technically

cheating..."

You have nothing on the guy and you hate him because you've been programmed to hate him because of the anti-Barry mob mentality.

It reminds me of the anti-Hillary hate I see at DU as well.

[H2O Man]

9. I always thought

the rumors about Senator Clinton using steroids were just that -- rumors.

[cboy4]

10. LOL. You know what I'm talking about mister. n/t

[H2O Man]

11. As I've said before,

I'd welcome Bonds as a Yankee.

[BOSSHOG]

3. A baseball team(s)

choose(s) not to have tainted goods in their dugout and its "hate?" Yo Cboy why hasn't Barry been found guilty of anything? Its really an easy question.

[cboy4]

4. Because he hasn't been convicted.

I can't wait for Jeff Borris to get specific about what happened.

[NoGOPZone]

14. The issue is whether or not these teams acted in concert or not

Doing so is indeed a violation of the CBA, as it should be.

[BOSSHOG]

16. But did they?

As Cboy would say, they haven't been convicted of anything. I love my Cboy and have no problem using his logic. I do not find it out of the realm of possibility that every team in both leagues would choose not to sign him. I sure as hell wouldn't want him on my team.

[NoGOPZone]

19. As I'm sure you know, that question can't be answered yet

because the union hasn't made their case yet. Several things are still within the realm of possibility.

[ProfessorGAC]

24. That Was BOSSHOG'S Point

If the union hasn't made its case with regard to collusion, so that means they MAY be guilty, then the exact same thing applies to Bonds.

You and cboy can't have it both ways.
The Professor

[cboy4]

26. Oh please, you can't compare the two situations.

You get back to me when the baseball clubs receive the same amount of venom Bonds has received ahead of any proof of wrong doing.

I don't disagree that it's important to wait for evidence of collusion before reacting in detail. And I've avoided reacting in detail. I simply wrote a headline and that's it.

I'll have far more to say if it's proven true.

[MaineDem]

5. Don't take it so personally

There are much more important things in the world to get worked up over.

[cboy4]

7. Shouldn't you be saying that to Turtlensue?

She needs a brown sack to help control her breathing.

[Forkboy]

12. Nah. I think MaineDem was right to address that to you.

You do seem worked up. Turtlensue didn't seem highly agitated at all. You, on the other hand, seem agitated from the Subject line on down through this thread. This post here is pure projection, dude. :shrug:

[cboy4]

13. It's a violation of the collective bargaining agreement, but

apparently everything is fair game when it comes to Barry Bonds.

But fine. I'll allow Borris to speak for me. "When I testify as a witness in the case, I will delineate each and every one of them."

I can't wait.

[Forkboy]

15. There's your first mistake.

I'll allow Boras to speak for me

Because if you can't trust a guy's agent, who can you trust? ;)

Let's just say I'm waiting to see the evidence before leaping on the Boras bandwagon. The guy makes ambulance chasers look respectable.

This piece is fake, obviously, but it sums Boras up rather nicely...the Onion would be proud.

Scott Boras Demands $35 Million To Rescue Drowning Child

EAST HAMPTON, NY--Scott Boras has long been known as a tough negotiator. That reputation was bolstered yesterday when the super agent demanded $35 million to rescue a small child drowning in the ocean near Boras’s home in East Hampton, New York.

The child, an eight-year-old named Danny Corgin, was swimming at a private beach when he was caught in the undertow and dragged away. As he flailed and cried for help, Boras relaxed on the deck of his luxury yacht.

“My grandson was swimming around when all of a sudden he was caught in a riptide and dragged out to sea,” said Ethel Corgin, the boy’s grandmother. “I didn’t know what to do. I started panicking. Then I saw that man relaxing on his yacht reading a book. So I asked for his help, and he just said ‘You want me to save a drowning child? Hmmm…that kind of thing will run you around 35 million.’ I tried to negotiate with him, but he was unwavering. I’ve never seen anyone so stubborn, greedy, and heartless in my life. What is he, a sports agent?”

http://www.thebrushback.com/scottboras_full.htm

[cboy4]

17. Oh geez, way to change the subject Alberto Gonzalez

:P

[Forkboy]

18. ....

:spray:

:rofl:

[hughee99]

25. Different guy...

Scott Boras the douchebag agent, Jeff Borris the douchebag lawyer.

[cboy4]

27. How is he a douchebag lawyer?

Because he's on Bonds' side?

[hughee99]

29. Because that's my general opinion of lawyers.

But being on Bonds' side doesn't help any. :hide:

[cboy4]

30. Oh come on. John Edwards did very good work as a lawyer!

:)

And yea, I figured you'd say that about Bonds you ass. :P

[hughee99]

31. There are "good" lawyers, of course

but you recognize their work because of the overwhelming number of "bad" lawyers they've succeeded against. I couldn't help myself with the Bonds comment. :)

[MrSlayer]

20. baseball wants to move past Bonds and his disgrace to the game.

His fraudulent records and the whole steroid stink. The shame of it is that Bonds was a first rate player before he decided to juice up, he didn't have to cheat, he chose to. He would have been first ballot Hall of Fame but getting by on his natural talent wasn't enough for him. I have no sympathy.

[Iggo]

21. Yay!

A whole thread devoted to Barry Bonds hate!

Thanks, cboy. You da man!

[cboy4]

28. Thank you, thank you.

Cboy *bows*

[HuckleB]

22. Well, I'll wait for the evidence.

But it's hard to imagine a GM who would sign him, considering this rep, right or wrong.

Maybe in Kansas City, Washington, or Pittsburgh. But even then, if your goal is to build a decent team and your resources are limited, do you pay big bucks to a square peg that will never fit into your round hole?

[jakefrep]

23. Bonds and the union should spare themselves the embarassment and drop this already.

Why reopen the steroid can of worms?

I don't think there is much sympathy for Bonds' self-inflicted plight at the moment.