YO TROTSKY

[WilliamPitt]

How 'bout this...

$100.

Donated to DU, in the name of the DUer chosen by the winner. Whomever loses, someone here gets a star.

No points. No BS.

Straight up. I say the Pats defeat the Jaguars. If you say otherwise, say so and back it.

Yes? No?

I'll be here.

(and P.S. there's no way to say this w/out coming off like a douchebag, so therefore I'll be blunt: if $100 is too steep - no reason to think it is, or isn't, etc. - we can negotiate a more appropriate number.)

(offered with respect...folks around here work, like you and me and everyone, and $100 is a lot of money if someone only be scratchin' by)

Pats beat Jax. Period, end of file.

$100, or whatever seems appropriate.

Mm?

[fishnfla]

1. I'll bet 20 bucks. Its all i can afford

but I gotta get some love on the road, at least 5

[WilliamPitt]

2. 20 works.

But let's not seal the deal officially until next week's spreads come out. If we're only favored by 3 1/2, 5 won't work. Tomorrow the numbers will be up.

Cheers. :)

[fishnfla]

3. tell ya what, screw the gravy

20 bucks to DU, straight up, no points

didja know that QB garrard has Chron's Disease and had 12 inches of his guts cut out but still played all season?

I saw that QB draw on 4th down coming a mile away, but still a huge play

[WilliamPitt]

4. You sure?

Not being cocky or anything, but I'm more than happy to set some points after the spread gets posted tomorrow. Your call, and either way, you're on. :toast:

I didn't know that about Garrard. I do know he's one of the best QBs nobody's ever heard of, and that he went something like 13 games this year before throwing his first pick of the season...and the pick was a tipped ball, not a bad pass. Five picks all year, I think. Brady-esqe, actually, as #12 also only threw five picks this year.

The play that had me screaming at the TV was during the Redskins game, when the 'Skins were losing, facing a third-and-eight in Jags territory, and desperately needed a first down to sustain the drive...and there was Todd Collins, pride of Walpole MA, looking straight at a gap in the O-line so big you could have sailed an aircraft carrier through it without chipping the paint.

And what does he do? He happy-foots around, a little left, a little right, back, forward, and the whole time he's looking straight at this galactic hole in the line, a huge hole, a stud-play gap that got made and widened rapidly by his line, there was that hole and then nothing but open field and blue sky beyond it...

He didn't run the gap, didn't run for the first down, didn't even appear to realize what he was looking at, and finally got the shit sacked out of him for a five yard loss. End of drive. Beginning of the end of the beginning of the end, right there. Every living soul in the bar, Redskins fans and non-Redskins fans, watched this and bellowed in unison: "RUN, YOU FUCKIN' IDIOT!"

Nope.

I was astonished. Any AFC quarterback who failed to explot such excellent O-line play by blowing off a freakin' gimme-run for at least ten yards and a first down...

...ANY AFC QB would be crucified and tarred and feathered and racked and burned at the stake and beheaded and revived and killed all over again...by the fans, the press, the coach, and especially by his O-line players once they got his scrawny yellow-striped ass into the locker room. "Waste my time, will you?" *SMOOSH* Quarterback gumbo.

Unreal.

I was blown away. Awful stuff.

[fishnfla]

5. I didnt see that play had my beer goggles on

I had the sound down. Collingsworth is a good announcer, but his voices is grating to my dull ears.

Did Collins and Hasselback play against each other in MA, or grown up in nearby towns?

Edit: yeah straight up, no points.

[WilliamPitt]

6. OK, bet.

:toast:

Dunno, but one of them went to Xavarian Brothers in Walpole, so maybe.

See ya next week. :)

[MaineDem]

10. Psst...Xavierian's in Westwood

Just me being an anal jerk. :)

[Forkboy]

7. All I could think of watching Collins was: Tony Eason.

'nuff said.

[trotsky]

8. Why would I want to bet on the Jags?

They're not my team. Why do you take any statement that could somehow be construed as a challenge for your precious Pats personally and turn into a frat boy?

[fishnfla]

9. What was the final spread anyway?

Someone tol' me 13 1/2 pts. Reminds me of the time I took the money line ND @ USC and almost won that bet

[Awsi Dooger]

11. Yeah, it closed -13.5

I was very fortunate a friend in Las Vegas found -11 for us as soon as the line came out, so I got a push. There's a couple of joints remaining who put some personal opinion into the number so he knew where to look.

I must say, it's rather amusing to read comments regarding wagering and the pointspread from novices. Stuff like betting with no points, or what happens if we're favored by 3.5. LOL. I was trying to envision that scenario, NE favored by less than a TD. What opponent is that, an all-time all-star squad? Against the Colts they are favored by 8 or higher, unless Indy is devastating tomorrow. Then it would be a shade lower.

Anyway, the game tonight went about as expected. Jacksonville didn't have the Fury of Anti-Revenge disadvantage so they hung in there for a half, but ultimately the lack of firepower and Brady's accuracy doomed them. I got a hearty chuckle out of the halftime comments from Cowher and others that the Jaguars were in good shape. They basically couldn't stop a thing in the first half, and on the road that's fatal.

Next week NE jumps all over Indy or SD in the first half. They own FAR against either opponent. Then the second half against the Colts might be back and forth but NE puts them away.

You don't beat a team like this in the playoffs. That's what most fans don't realize. The true vulnerability is late in the season, when the intensity naturally wanes. Once the playoffs begin you throw out the supposed vulnerability of the past month or more. It will take a fabulous effort, and some of those tipped and lucky INTs to beat them, the ones Marino mentioned tonight.

[fishnfla]

12. it was all in fun bro

its funny sharing a discussion forum with folks who

1. Cant read or dont read or are too stupid to comprehend what they read. The original OP wager was for " no points. no BS" Since it was for a good cause, and Mr Pitt was kind enough to let me lower the amount, I waived the points. Its was a bet between gentlemen.

2. Make assumptions about people they dont even know and hang a label on them. My FIL was a pit boss bro. I've spent plenty of time in the sports book rooms in Vegas and Tahoe. Stuff that novice shit up your ass.

3. Some of my biggest wins have been against the money line. I thought this was one of them. Thats why they call it gambling.

[fishnfla]

13. Yo WINNER who gets the star?

how 'bout your buddy Myth, you were right about his psots.

[WilliamPitt]

15. I think he has a star

Lemme go look around. Check PM later.

Thanks.

[fishnfla]

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