Bonds exposed?

[ls317]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/03/06/news.excerpt/index.html?cnn=yes


NEW YORK (SI.com) -- Beginning in 1998 with injections in his buttocks of Winstrol, a powerful steroid, Barry Bonds took a wide array of performance-enhancing drugs over at least five seasons in a massive doping regimen that grew more sophisticated as the years went on, according to Game of Shadows, a book written by two San Francisco Chronicle reporters at the forefront of reporting on the BALCO steroid distribution scandal.

[bmbmd]

1. Wow. Just wow.

What a jerk.

[RamboLiberal]

2. I think Bonds ought to be stripped of the HR record

So should McGwire - they both cheated with muscle enhancing drugs. IMHO they did more damage to baseball than Pete Rose. Both ought to be kicked out of baseball forever.

At least they should have the asterik of all asteriks besides their names in the record books. They're both jerks.

And if either of these jerks get sick from these drugs, they get :nopity: from this former fan of baseball.

[Poiuyt]

3. I think all the steroid users should be stripped of their records

That is the best way to punish them. Better than any suspension in my opinion.

[northzax]

6. sure, anyone who tests positive

right now we have accusations against him, he's never failed a test.

[Redbear]

22. It is not just accusations, it is sworn testimony and documents.

Bonds will be very lucky if he escapes a perjury rap.

[theHandpuppet]

9. Totally agree with you

You pretty much said it all for me.

[THUNDER HANDS]

4. wow, look at this photo spread...

1992



2001



2004

[erpowers]

14. 12 Years

Those picture are from a 12 year spand of time. It would be easy for a person like Bonds to pick the amount of muscle weight he has in that period of time. The pictures do not prove that Bonds used steroids.

[genie_weenie]

15. You're correct

however, Men do not easily gain muscle once they pass 30. Bonds body became bigger and more muscled as he got older. And it would be easy to pick up the amount of muscle Bonds gained? I'm not so sure...

[mountainvue]

5. He needs to be stripped of his records.

MLB better do something about this.

[spooked911]

8. I think they need hard evidence-- blood or urine test

[ls317]

10. Good Point!

My question is this? How came they didn't go after Mcguire or Sosa... If that is the case basically any player that played MB from 1988 on...I am curious to see if he will address all the issues at some time of press conference..???
Where is the failed test?????.Yes Bonds is an asshole that isn't the issue here at all...It raises some questions why release the book right now?? If you had so much on him
Its kinda tough to have sources in a book that have been listed as anonymous

[spooked911]

7. I find it very curious that he sat out all of last year when they started

testing for steroids.


His knee never seemed that bad.


Was he drying out?

[SammyBlue]

11. Oh, come on. . leave Bariod Bonds alone

Sure, he likes to cream home runs and shoot up his mouth with strong words, but he like orange juice, and you can't prove he was in love with a woman named Diana Bol.

So, please, stop with the Baroid comments. Just because he was a stick figure as a rookie and now has muscles in places that most people don't have places proves that he likes to workout and use supplements.

Here's a list of the ones he seems to like:

Equpoise, Anadrol, Somatropin, Stanazolol, Deca-Durablin, Primobolan, Fina, Sustanon 250, Testosterone Cypionate, Testosterone Enanthate, Parabolan, Maxteron.

If you're wondering, yes I live at the gym. . .no I don't do juice and yes, I know alot about them.

[MrBenchley]

12. He doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Babe Ruth

who, as we all know, was always free of illegal substances (snicker)

[erpowers]

16. How

How do we know that? Was there steroid testing when Ruth played the game? If there was not testing than for all we know Babe Ruth could have been one of the biggest dopers in the game. In addition, there is no real or concrete proof that Bonds used steriods at any time. It seems that by all indications his size gradually grew bigger. There is not proof that in one year he gained a larger amount of muscle than can be done without using steroids.

I believe the authors of the book claimed tht Bonds gained fifteen pounds of muscle weight in one year. I do not know anything about gaining muscle, except that when you gain muscle you might lose fat faster, but gaining fifteen pounds of muscle weight does not seem out of the ordinary to me. It seem like something a person could easily do if they worked out hard enough. Finally, if a person loses one pound of fat each week they will lose 48 pounds of fat by the end of the year. If a person can lose 48 pounds of fat in a year I do not see why a person cannot gain fifteen pounds of muscle a year.

[MrBenchley]

20. Steroids weren't discovered until 1935, when the Bambino retired

Babe's on record, though, as being an enthusiastic consumer of booze, which WAS illegal at the time.

[erpowers]

18. 25 Pounds

I just skimed through an article that pointed to 25 pounds of muscle gain as the top average. The article claimed that it is rare for people to gain more than 25 pounds of muscle in a year, but it can be done. At fifteen pounds Bond is 10 pounds below that standard.

[MrBenchley]

19. Wonder how much beer gut Ruth put on in any year?

[erpowers]

13. Double Standard

My first thought about this book is why did they not do this with Mark McGuire? When McGuire hit his 70 home runs noone or very few people within the media said anything about him using growth hormones. Noone did any research to find out if he had actually used any illegal steroids. Just about everyone knew McGuire was using growth hormones. People were writing into magazines asking the magazines why they would put McGuire on the cover of their magazine when it was know tht McGuire was using growth hormones. I contend that this book is both unfair and has a double standard.

[Redbear]

21. The book says Bonds started taking steroids because of McGwire.

Also McGwire's usage wasn't part of a criminal investigation. Much of the info in the book comes directly from the criminal investigation of BALCO.

[Midnight Rambler]

23. Also you have to remember the authors are SF Chronicle reporters

Had there been a book by writers from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, then that one would be all about McGwire. Chicago Sun-Times, all Sammy Sosa, and so on.

Plus, Bonds has beenthe most visible, and by far the most obnoxious, of the big homerun hitters. He's not only breaking McGwire's record, but he's poised to pass up Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron as well. Whereas McGwire passed up Maris then pretty much dropped off the face of the earth.

[democracyindanger]

24. Plus, they were the reporters assigned to the BALCO story

in which Bonds seems inextricably entwined.

[genie_weenie]

17. ALL STERIOD RECORDS SHOULD BE KEPT

The real damage is no baseball fan is going to acknowledge McGwire, Bonds, Sosa, Brady anderson, Jose Canseco, Jason Giambi, Rafel Palmerio when speaking of the great baseball players.

However, the real damage is what message this sends to young children and minor league players. Cheat and you earn millions of dollars, MVP awards, accolades, and the damage that is going to be done to their psyches, bodies and possible careers.

So, how do we as fans tell baseball they fucked up?

I have done so by not attending games in person since 1997, have not bought baseball apparell, or sports magazines devoted to baseball. The only real way to affect change in MLB is to hit them in the pocketbook. Because when it comes down to it, Bud Selig et al, believed the way to save baseball was to inflate players bodies, inflate games, and perpetuate the "chicks dig the long ball" mentality. So, boycott baseball...