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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:56 PM
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The Upcoming Bush Bowl
Yes, there will be a Bush bowl this year, but not W., rather it's for Reggie Bush. The two worst teams in the NFL this season, the 49ers and the Texans, will meet on the final weekend of the season. The loser of that game will get the first pick in the NFL draft and will probably draft USC running back and Heismann trophy winner, Reggie Bush. It could make for a rather comical game where the incentive is on losing the game rather than winning it.

Odd, a game to determine the worst team in the NFL with a greater incentive on losing rather than winning? Maybe it should be named after W.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:15 AM
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1. Texans Foolish
In my opinion the Texans would be foolish to pick Bush with the first pick of the draft and keep him. The Texans have a pretty good running back. The problem in not their running game, it is their offensive line. They need an offensive line that can protect the quarterback and allow the running back to run. I think it would be a bad idea to pick Bush and then not get an offensive line and then expect Bush to do everything. That is what it seems like people who support the idea of the Texans drafting Bush are thinking. It seems like they are hoping that Bush will do everything. When analysts speak about the Texans drafting Bush they say that Bush is a game changer and the Texans should not pass up on a game changer. I think people should realize that Bush has played on a team that seems to have a good offensive line and a good quarterback. I do not say this to bash Bush I just think it is wrong and maybe foolish to think or expect Bush to come in a be a great running back without an offensive line.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 01:45 PM
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2. I think that's a really good point.
But, even if the Texans don't want Bush, LOTS of teams do, and if there's any Ditka-dumb GM out there, they'll give up a hefty sum to get that #1 pick and take him.

Personally, I dunno. It seems like #1 overall picks are about a 50-50 shot at whether they will succeed in the NFL or not. How many former #1s do the Pats have on their team? Any?
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AmericanErrorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 04:18 PM
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3. The problem with low-ranked teams getting star players
Often, the team that has gotten lucky with that one special draft pick cannot get the resources to get a better team. On the flip side, however, is possible that a #1 draft pick could lead the out of the league basement (thus making them ineligible for future #1 draft picks), but the team cannot then much more that very little postseason success.

Are there any obvious examples of teams doing bad, getting #1 draft picks, and having major postseason successes during the #1 pick's careers with those teams?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:19 PM
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4. well, there are 13 overall number ones in Canton
the list:


1983 1 1 1 John Elway Colts QB Stanford 2004
1978 1 1 1 Earl Campbell Oilers RB Texas 1991
1976 1 1 1 Lee Roy Selmon Buccaneers DE Oklahoma 1995
1970 1 1 1 Terry Bradshaw Steelers QB Louisiana Tech 1989
1969 1 1 1 O.J. Simpson Bills RB USC 1985
1968 1 1 1 Ron Yary Vikings T USC 2001
1965 1 1 1 Joe Namath Jets QB Alabama 1985
1964 1 1 1 Bob Brown Broncos T Nebraska 2004
1963 1 1 1 Buck Buchanan Chiefs DT Grambling 1990
1957 1 1 1 Paul Hornung Packers RB Notre Dame 1986
1949 1 1 1 Chuck Bednarik Eagles C Pennsylvania
1945 1 1 1 Charley Trippi Cardinals B Georgia 1968
1942 1 1 1 "Bullet" Bill Dudley Steelers B Virginia

I'd say that Bradshaw fellow had a pretty big impact. Elway, of course, doesn't count, since he was traded on draft day. More recently, I'd throw Troy Aikman into that list (1989 top pick) and I think the elder Manning brother will be ok, in the long run (of course, Eli, as a tradee, doesn't count either) I think the 80's will get their three as well, once Aikman and Bruce Smith ('85) get their yellow jackets. (Aikman is on the bubble, true) I don't see

there has been a rounded draft since 1938, so there are 67 overall number ones, that's 19% of them in the Hall of Fame, not bad. And it's two to three a decade (except the 50's for some reason) and the 60's had a 50% chance. I think the 80's will get their three as well, once Aikman and Bruce Smith ('85) get their yellow jackets. (Aikman is on the bubble, true) I see the 90's joining the 50's, maybe two total (Peyton and perhaps Orlando Pace, if all goes well) I don't see Jeff George or Russell Maryland joining.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:25 PM
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5. I predict at least one missed FG
Per team
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