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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:50 PM
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What's the best/worst trade your team ever made?
I'm a Red Sox fan, so we can assume the Babe Ruth deal as an absolute.

Beyond that, the worst trade I can remember was when we gave away Jeff Bagwell for a bag of hammers and some loam.

The best trade I can remember is when we got Jason Veritek and Derek Lowe from Seattle, and in that trade Seattle got the immortal Heathcliff Slocumb.

You?
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:52 PM
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1. We let you guys get Johnny Damon.
And let the Mets get Carlos Beltran. Yeah, Damon's got a rag for an arm. But I cant even remember who we got for them. Or Germaine Dye.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:04 PM
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3. You guys traded Beltran to Houston first
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:10 PM
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6. You're right.
But for what, a bag of bats?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:16 PM
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8. I dont know
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:32 PM
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15. What about Joe Randa?
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ClevelandSportsCurse Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:59 PM
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2. Cavs trading Ron Harper in 1989 for Danny Ferry
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 08:01 PM by sph812
The trade was non-basketball related. The Cavs said that Harper was hanging with the "wrong crowd," which wasn't true. The word is that Harper was having an affair with Gordon Gund's daughter, but I don't know whether that is true or not. And as everyone knows, Ferry turned out to be not nearly what he was projected as a second pick (however, I do feel that Ferry will be a very good GM).

Michael Jordan once said that nobody defended him better than Ron Harper. Had the Cavs still had Harper in 1992 when they made the Eastern Conference Finals and lost to the Bulls, I think they would have beaten Chicago. Harper would have neutralized Jordan (but not necessarily stop him) to the point that the Cavs would not have had to double team him. Therefore, the Cavs could guard the other Bulls players and take them out of the game.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:05 PM
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4. Os traded Schilling way back when for Glenn Davis I believe
Pete Harnsch and some others were in that too, Glenn Davis was a real bust,
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Dissent Is Patriotic Donating Member (793 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:07 PM
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5. Worst trade 1989 Mets
Lenny Dykstra and Rodger Mcdowell for Juan Sammuel.They said Dykstra could hit left hand pitching.He went on to win a batting title with the Phillies.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:29 PM
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14. Lets not forget the Nolan Ryan for Jim Fergosi trade
that's a real gem
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:43 AM
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36. Seconded...
..though not my team.

Trading your CF and a relief pitcher for a 2nd baseman you are going to convert to CF is a bad idea even if Samuel didn't stink up the joint.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:12 PM
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7. Believe or not, Jim Bunning (R-Ky)
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 08:15 PM by longship
True! Bunning was the worst trade. Detroit Tigers gave him up and he went to the NL and pitched a perfect game. Great pitcher, not so good Senator.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:21 PM
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9. worst Yankee trade
in recent memory was Doug Drabek for Rick Rhoden or Jay Buhner for Ken Phelps.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:23 PM
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10. best Yankee trade
in recent memory was getting Paul O'Neill for Roberto Kelly.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:06 AM
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19. I dunno . . . in the last few years, the Yanks have traded away . . .
a LOT of young talent, many of whom are already making noise with other teams (e.g. Nick Johnson, that catcher with the odd name, etc.) . . . it's too early to determine what the long term will look like, but it's entirely possible that some of these trades will be right up there on the "worst list" in the future . . .
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 11:37 AM
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25. I love Nick
he keeps getting hurt. The Pena for Henson trade was pretty awful. Navarro was in the RJ trade.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:16 PM
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11. jeff bagweLL for Larry anderson
doh!

pLunket from the pats.

maybe even brady anderson, whom the sox traded for boddicker.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:23 PM
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13. we loved having him :)
though id say bagwell though anderson is beloved in baltimore, was elected to the o's hall of fame last summer, miss him, even named my dog after him since we got him the year he hit 50 homers.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:21 PM
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12. In Chicago, hands down, no doubt about it........
Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/baseball/worst/deadlinedeals.html

p.s. I'm a white sox fan so I rather enjoyed it. ha ha
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:04 AM
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16. Stephon Marbury for Jason Kidd or Aaron/Eric Williams For Vince Carter
no doubt. Probably the deals of the decade in pro basketball.

Amazing trades that couldn't have been pulled off by anyone other than Rod Thorn, the best GM in pro sports.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:10 AM
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17. for the Colorado Rockies, who are only "my team"
insofar as they inhabit the same city... any trade the idiot GM Dan O'Dowd has ever made, up to and including trading Shawn Chacon for two minor leaguers yesterday.

Fortunately he traded him to my favorite team, so all is not lost.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 01:20 AM
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18. As a Vikings fan do I even have to say the worst? Herschel Walker.
...without a doubt, one of the worst trades in NFL history....

"The Vikings would make what would be considered its biggest blunder in team history. On October 12, 1989, the Vikings acquired Herschel Walker from Dallas for Issiac Holt, David Howard, Darrin Nelson, Jesse Solomon, Alex Stewart, a first-round choice in 1992, conditional 1st-round choices in 1990 and '91, conditional 2nd-round choices in 1990, '91 and '92, and a conditional 3rd-round choice in 1992. The final result of the trade gave the Vikings Walker, a 3rd (Mike Jones), 5th (Reggie Thornton) and 10th-round choice (Pat Newman) in 1990 and a 3rd-round choice in 1991 (Jake Reed), while Dallas received all 5 players, a 1st, 2nd and 6th-round choice in 1990, a 1st and 2nd-round choice in 1991 and a 1st, 2nd and 3rd-round choice in 1992."

Source: http://www.answers.com/topic/minnesota-vikings

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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 10:05 AM
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22. I also agree with the poor Walker trade.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 10:10 AM
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23. Yes. That might be the worst NFL trade ever.
I didn't understand it all. It was shocking. It actually depressed me.

And I'm a Packers fan.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:33 PM
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28. Ding, ding, ding!!! We have the winner!!!
I remember Herschel's first game -- he broke off a 40 yard run (and his shoe came off) on about his 3rd carry. I was excited at the possibilites of him carrying the Vikes for years. Boy, was I let down... :spank: :thumbsdown: :cry:
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 06:32 PM
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32. And as a Cowboy fan, the best ever
nm
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:27 AM
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20. Ozzie Smith for Garry "If I ain't startin', I ain't departin'" Templeton
Garry was a better offensive player, and a pretty damned good shortstop, but after flipping off the fans the Cards ran his ass out of town on a rail. Ozzie came to town, and the Cards took off.

Of course the Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio theft is legendary as well. *snicker*
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 09:55 AM
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21. The Mariners traded Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe for Heathcliff Slocumb
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 10:22 AM by HuckleB
Yup, Red Sox fans can offer up a little bit of thanks to goofball Seattle management for helping them to their World Series title, IMHO.

Next up would be the Mariners dumping Carlos Guillen to the Tigers for, well, something to help keep the M's in the cellar for a few years. Sheesh.
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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 11:31 AM
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24. When we got rid of Slocumb, I woke my Mom up
to celebrate. We had no idea who these two prospects were, and we didn't care! Slocumb was gone!!

Duquette's finest hour- even before I realized that one of these guys would become the captain and my pretend boyfriend.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:51 PM
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27. We did get Jamie Moyer from the Sox for Darren Bragg though
That was a pretty sweet deal.

I think the Guillen deal is far and away worse than the Varitek/Lowe deal. At least with that trade the M's were making a move to try and win a division.

Guillen was given away in the offseason for NOTHING. Totally brutal deal.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:47 PM
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26. Bagwell went for Larry Andersen
who pitched very well for the two months or so he was in Boston.

Then they did not re-sign him.

How about Danny Cater for Sparky Lyle?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 04:37 PM
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29. As for best with the Orioles, sorry I am late
but without a doubt, Jack Baldshun and Milt Pappas for Frank Robinson, Robbie gets a triple crown his first year in Baltimore and the O's sweep the Dodgers in the series. To see those kinda years again sigh. And anyhow about Schilling wasnt he brought up by Boston too, I know we had him then the Stros did, then the Phills, and then the DBacks, and now hes in Boston.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:04 PM
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30. Jermaine O'Neal for Dale Davis. nt
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:18 PM
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31. Worst: Lou Brock to our hated rivals
for washed up Ernie Broglio. The best? Quite possibly when the Cubs acquired Larry Bowa and some guy named Ryne Sandberg from Philadelphia for Ivan DeJesus and others. Sandberg is rightfully being inducted into the HoF today and DeJesus is...well I don't really know where he is now. Not the Hall of Fame.
Another great trade for the Cubs was getting Ferguson Jenkins from the Phillies for some guy or guys whose name I can't even remember. Wonder if the Phillies have anyone else they want to deal?
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 08:48 PM
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33. Whoever it was the Detroit Tigers traded for Juan Gonzalez
It doesn't matter who they traded away. Having Gonzalez in the dugout is too much of a negative.
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dad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 03:31 AM
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34. He whose name must not be mentioned: Sean Gilbert
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 03:33 AM by dad
I'm more into fantasy sports than following actual teams.
Probably the result of only having one real team in town (Crackalacka Panthers).

For the Panties, obviously the Sean Gilbert trade was legendarily bad.
Gilbert said it was a spiritual thing - Sean had a revelation from God that the Redskins should pay him the figure of $5 million. So he held out and the Panties gave WAS TWO #1's, one of which was the #5 overall which was traded for N.O.'s entire draft to get Ricky Williams.
Keep in mind that Gilbert for nothing would have been a bad trade, considering how mediocre he was and how bad he wrecked our salary cap.

The worst fantasy trade I ever did was my first one, when I traded Emmitt Smith (he was talking about holding out the entire season) for Randall Cunningham (I was desperate for a QB). Well I made the trade and boom - Emmitt signed and went on to score like 24 TDs, and Cunningham instantly broke his leg. I had to go that whole season with Trent Dilfer - in his rookie season with the Tampa Bay Bucs - as QB.

I've had my share of good trades too. This season I traded Edgardo Alfonzo and Jeff Bagwell at just the right time and got Mark Buerhle and some other scrubs.

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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 06:01 AM
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35. Will, you forgot Ortiz
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 06:02 AM by matcom
we STOLE Papi

stole him.

wasn't even fair.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 03:32 PM
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39. I thought you guys signed him
Youd love to see what hes doing in my game season, hes nearly got a triple crown but SlapRod has more homers, only a couple more though.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:02 PM
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37. Mets - Nolan Ryan for Jim Fregosi
That has to be one of the worst of all time.

btw - Ruth was not traded. He was sold by Boston to NY
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 03:30 PM
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38. Tony Fernandez and Fred McGriff for Joe Carter and Robbie Alomar...
directly led to 2 World Series.

You just don't see trades involving 4 All-Stars anymore.

Sid
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