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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 11:50 PM
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Breaking news (still speculation..but there it is) that Francona will leave the Red Sox
Edited on Fri Sep-30-11 12:00 AM by NRaleighLiberal
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 12:16 AM
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1. Really too bad if that happens.....I blame Epstein more for the personnel choices made.
Tony had to work with what he was given. But, interesting to hear Jim Rice's criticisms on NESN last night. He kept referring to the clubhouse as a 'spa'. It sounded like this team has pretty much run the clubhouse on their terms...maybe Francona has lost too much control on the team. He strikes me as someone who tries to avoid confrontations with the players. Maybe that's worked well in the past, but the present roster may be creating managerial problems that have contributed to the collapse this year.

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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 12:19 AM
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2. The Simmons podcast mentioned how Torre, despite his success, similarly wore out his welcome
with the Yankees.

What would be very cool - if Tito went to the Cubs and led them to a Series victory at last.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 09:54 AM
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7. Nope.
The Curse Of Steve.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 10:32 AM
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9. The more likely Chicago team is the White Sox...he once coached there...nt
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 08:55 AM
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5. I think you're right...he doesn't have control...he keeps them relaxed and
when they were hungry and young, it worked, now it doesn't.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 01:15 AM
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3. I actually thought (think) that Francona wanted to leave.
I seriously wish him the best. I really thought he was a good manager.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 09:12 AM
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6. Good when they were young and hungry, not so good when they need motivation...
I think he wants out...if you listen to what he said at the press conference it seemed like he was dropping hints.
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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 07:42 AM
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4. Managers are hired to be fired.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 10:30 AM
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8. Wait. What?
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wilt the stilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:06 AM
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10. Ultimately, this would be a terrible decision
You further undermine any possibility of any manager having any control. This relieves the players of responsibility and put it on the shoulders of the manager. Sometimes you need to stick by your manager and let the players know that they sucked.
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