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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 08:52 AM
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Poll question: Is Jaime Moyer a future Hall of Famer?
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 09:22 AM by charlie and algernon
He's had a LOOOONG 23 year career that's still going. He's got 265 wins and will probably get another 10-15 before he finally retires. 2,300 Strikeouts, he'll finish with well over 4,000 Innings pitched. I believe that he has the most wins of any pitcher after turning 40.

So is he a future Hall of Famer? Or just a pitcher that benefited from great health and being just good enough to stay around for a long time?
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:05 AM
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1. FYI, according to Baseball Almanac, Moyer is currently tied for 35th all time in Wins
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 09:05 AM by charlie and algernon
and is in the top 40, right near Sandy Koufax with strikeouts.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:20 AM
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2. He's benefitted from longetivity
and his last few years have without a doubt been his best. When he was with the O's in the 90's he was a pretty mediocre pitcher though.
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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 01:51 PM
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10. Are you joking??
Sandy Koufax played 12 seasons and you're comparing Moyer's strikeout total with his??

:rofl:
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:24 AM
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3. Any pitcher who can last that long and pitch so well
has got to be inducted IMO.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:33 AM
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4. yeah, when you look at how many pitchers burn out
and are out of the Majors due to either injury or loss of mechanics, etc, after just a few years. Then you have Moyer who's managed to stay around FOREVER and be successful doing it. Which means he pitches well enough that batters haven't TOTALLY figured him out. Then you almost have to induct him at some point. IMO, he's not a first ballot HOF, that should be reserved for pitchers like Maddux and Smoltz, but he should get in eventually.
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:35 AM
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5. Yeah, I think he should be,
Longevity and productivity go hand in hand.

He's been a productive pitcher for a long time. There's a reason he's been around this long.

But he'll have the same fate the Bert Blylevin is currently going through.

Always just that one step below.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:29 AM
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6. He's a great guy, and a good pitcher.
His best years were in the late '90s and early '00s with Seattle, and he's actually been quite up and down in Philadelphia. I love to watch him when he's on. It's magical. Still, I don't see him at the HOF level.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:46 AM
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7. I vote no
It's been a solid career but nothing stands out except for the longevity of it.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:53 PM
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8. Only if he gets to 300 wins
Magic numbers count in MLB.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:55 PM
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9. heh, so he needs to play till he's 51 years old, LOL
assuming he could get 10+ wins for the next 3-4 years. Of course if he can get ANY wins at age 51, they better induct him first ballot.
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