Sox hang on for the win.

[Redneck Socialist]

Foulke tried to give it away, but the Sox managed a six five win over the Blue Jays.

And in other news, the Orioles are whuppin' up on the Yanks 11 to 4! :)

[JohnKleeb]

1. Yes, I know

:) and I am one happy fucker. It's a sign of things to come really. So if we hang on for the win, we will be back in first place.

[bigwillq]

3. Let's just wait and see

where the O's are going to be in October! In hibernation would be my best guess!:P

[JohnKleeb]

5. Well you know

You guys are in decline, I am content just to be in third place and be over 500.

[bigwillq]

8. In decline! WTF?

How many games have they played? Four? Let's talk in Auguts Kleeb and then we'll talk about decline. Decline. WHAT?:shrug:

[JohnKleeb]

9. I meant as a whole sense

When was the last time you guys won a series? The Yankees are getting old. I just think getting a new big name free agent year isn't the solution to everything, I do think Tino Martinez was a smart aquaisination.

[DaveinMD]

14. the Yanks have won 100 games every year since 2002

this is not a team in decline. Its a team that hasn't closed the deal.

[JohnKleeb]

18. They seem like they get to closing the deal but miss it

Got one game away from winning the ACLS last year, one game from winning the series the year before that. They're a good team but the solution they've been using is wrong, what wins those close late post season games isn't a big name player but heart.

[DaveinMD]

21. Kleeb

I love ya, but heart has nothing to do with it. Did they not show heart when they came back against Boston in game 7 of 2003. They lost because they didn't finish the job. Mo gets the save in game 4 and everything is fine. And don't tell me MO doesn't have heart.

Baseball is won by talent, not heart.

[JohnKleeb]

24. I just think the yanks front office is extremely naive to think getting

a new big name player every year is gonna magically get them another series title. Like sure the new name will do good, I bet you that Johnson wins 15-20 games this year, I'll also make a fair bet and say Pavano wins 15. I

[DaveinMD]

26. the big names have not hurt their chances of winning

in fact, the failure of the old names is what really killed them last year.

[JohnKleeb]

27. I didnt say hurt but it hasnt dramatically improved their chances either

I admit it I am bitter because you guys seem to get what we got in Tejada every year, and I know that's partially our front office's fault for flat out not caring.

[DaveinMD]

28. well

RJ and Pavano will definitely help. Schilling sure helped Boston and he's a big name. Manny was a big name when they signed him too.

Baltimore's problem now is that they can't get guys to take their money. The Yanks went through that in the early 90s.

[JohnKleeb]

31. I really wish they had traded Bedard for Hudson now

Sighhhhhhh I sound like a bitter baby I know, its just I really did put things in perspective and I realized that the last time the orioles were good was when I was actually good at baseball.

[DaveinMD]

33. I think Hudson is declining

his strikeout rates are declining the last few years. He wouldn't have re-signed in Baltimore. He wanted to play for the Braves.

[JohnKleeb]

34. Yeah but I think he would have been better for them than Bedard

Sigh the years when people actually wanted to play for that organization. At least the nationals have some promise.

[DaveinMD]

35. they need to win a little

then the perception will change. They also need to be run a little better.

[JohnKleeb]

36. I blame Angelos for this

shit, as much as I adamantly dislike the Yankees at least they are smart when it comes to important things like respecting the authority of the manager, thats why Johnson got canned.

[bigwillq]

16. Can't control the aging process--

These guys have given us Yankee fans some wonderful moments over the last 10 or so years.
The Yanks win 90-95 games this year. Count it. And that's a decline?
These guys still have a lot of life left in them.
I agree that some guys are aging a bit but to say "as a whole sense" is a little absurd. Just think about it. When was the last time a team had the success that the Yanks had. The A's in the 70's? Maybe.
The Braves of the 90's. Maybe.
It's just that people expect the Yanks to always win and when they don't people are like "oh, they suck"
Even if the Yanks don't win the Series, they'll still be one of the top 5 teams in baseball.

[JohnKleeb]

17. Would agree that they aren't what they were 1996-2000?

I Am not denying they're still a good team but they aren't what they once were.

[DaveinMD]

30. the 1998-99 team

was one of the best of all time. The 96 team isn't as good as the team of the last few years. Their opposition wasn't as good and they went on a magical run. The 2000 team was pretty mediocre. They got hot at the right time.

[DaveinMD]

2. so focused on the Yanks already

the Yanks will be fine. Just one bad game. And Kleeb-we'll kick your asses the next two games.

[JohnKleeb]

6. Thats probably true sigh

Fucking Yankees, been spitting on my dreams since I was 9.

[DaveinMD]

7. you should be

a Nats fan now anyway. Peter Angelos is the one that screwed up your dreams.

[JohnKleeb]

10. It was both

His fucked up management and the fucking '96 ACLS.

[DaveinMD]

11. the O's

were lucky to even be in the playoffs that year. The O's haven't been the same since they fired Davey Johnson.

[JohnKleeb]

Tell me something I don't know, I witnessed the downfall

I will take pride in the fact they could be on the uphill climb back, pitching damnit, thats what they need.

[DaveinMD]

19. I don't think they are close at all

no pitching and some of their regulars are on the downside. They were a below average team in terms of obp last year too and that is the most important offensive stat in my view.

[JohnKleeb]

22. I believe it was the fourth best offense in the league last yera

Had it not been for a 12 game losing streak mid season, this team would have been at 500 easily.

[DaveinMD]

23. nope

below average obp and 6th in the al in runs scored. Very middle of the pack.

[JohnKleeb]

25. Damnit, I need to read better

Someone needs to get rid of Angelos.

[sasquatch]

4. Which "Sox" we have two you know?

x(

[Redneck Socialist]

13. Sorry man, regional myopia

It's epidemic around here. :P

[JohnKleeb]

12. and to close out this news, orioles won 12-5 in their first of

hopefully many wins against the Yankees this year. :shrug: how I hate to dream.

[Redneck Socialist]

15. Everyone needs a dream,

yours is a good one. :)

[JohnKleeb]

20. I just want to be a 500 team

Like fans of both the Yanks and Sox can be bitter all they like about past oppertunites but at least they're making the playoffs. To put things in perspective people. I admit it I am bitter but consider this. In my life the orioles have less division titles than the Yankees do championships, thats such a drag.

[Redneck Socialist]

29. Some day the Yankees actually will suck

and wonder of wonders the Orioles will rule the roost. C'mon man, its gotta happen someday. :bounce:

[JohnKleeb]

32. It's not as if the Yankees havent sucked before

Ha one has to wonder how things would have turned out if Harry Frazee cared more about baseball than his stupid plays.

[DaveinMD]

37. the Yanks sucked bad

when I was in high school. I had an internship in the scoreboard booth at the stadium the year they finished in last place. It was still fun.

[JohnKleeb]

38. Well yeah for sure

BTW thats a cool internship.