Do you believe everything was created in six days???

[Proud_Democratt]

According to Genesis chapters 1 and 2, all things were created in six days. God rested on the seventh day.

Vote and discuss.

[Minnesota Libra]

1. No, not at all, in the Bible it says...................

....something to the affect of "To God a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day."

[Proud_Democratt]

3. Good observation...

[Bill McBlueState]

18. does it really say that in the bible? n/t

[Minnesota Libra]

21. I'm not sure of the exact words but yes it says something like...........

....that. I can't promise but I will look and see if I can find the passage.

on edit: found it............

1. 2 Peter 3:8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

[The Magistrate]

25. First Or Second Peter, Sir

Just which escapes immediate recollection, but it is in one of those late Epistles. The context is one of steeling the congregation against disappointment that the Last Days are not coming quite so soon as expected....

[Minnesota Libra]

28. Oh sorry - it's 2nd Peter - you're right about the context but............

....as with everything else in the Bible it still applies in showing the "number of days" needed from God's point of view in creating the world.

In other words it could have been up to 6 thousand years to get the world going good. One thing for sure, the 6 calendar days thing can't possibly apply because that would have put dinosaurs and man on earth at the same time. I doubt that would have worked out too well.:rofl:

edited for clarity

[davidwparker]

36. yes.

[jeff30997]

2. My answer:

Bwahahahahah! :rofl:

[Crunchy Frog]

6. Mine too. I wonder who voted that they actually believe it.

[Ian David]

4. Other: I believe Everything was created in less than one second...

during The Big Bang (or The Big Inflationary Period).

It's pretty arrogant to think that until life... or Earth... was created, that there was "nothing."

The Universe doesn't exist merely for our own benefit.

[davidwparker]

38. Right. God existed when the earth didn't.

[Ian David]

41. God? No... God was invented by man to explain strange voices in his head.

Now, we know it's called "schizophrenia."

[beam me up scottie]

42. I knew that was coming...

[TreasonousBastard]

5. Of course it was done in only 6 days...

if God took his time about it he would have gotten it right.

[Fovea]

7. According to CIA transcripts

George W. Bush was created in 3 min, 19 seconds.

[saskatoon]

23. 3 min.and counting

and God said, "Good God,I turn my back for a few seconds and look at the crap that happens!

[Random_Australian]

52. And the Jester said: "well that'll teach you for making God-seconds so

long" and verily the Lord said "shhhh... I've got a bloomin headache, don't speak so loud, I mean, how would YOU like to hear prayer to * day after day? Huh?"

[Faux pas]

8. I always figured the 6 day reference was metaphorical. n/t

[Crunchy Frog]

9. I believe that everything was created instantaneously, last week.

All of us with all of our memories and all of the DU archives; everything. I challenge anyone on here to prove me wrong.

[struggle4progress]

48. Anyway, who can remember more than the last week or so?

[Spinzonner]

10. Grossly wrong

He partee-ed on the seventh day.

God doesn't get tired; what kind of omnipotent being would he be if he got tired.

[IntravenousDemilo]

11. No, because I'm neither a stupid knob nor a pig-ignorant tool. n/m

[opihimoimoi]

12. SHE Rested??? Just askin....

[Proud_Democratt]

14. Great point...bad assumption.

[Proud_Democratt]

16. Edited with"God"

[saltpoint]

13. Creation theories vary. I wasn't here when the whole show kicked in

so I have no idea how we got here exactly.

I know that Republicans put a huge strain on the theory of evolution.

Still, I lean toward Darwin.

Six of our calendar days is good for a fishing trip. Maybe the world was created in six metaphorical days, and who knows how long those were.

Six literal modern-day days? Nope.

[MADem]

15. Christ on a bicycle!

Our family can't even get everything done for CHRISTMAS in six days...now granted, none of us are "The Lord Our God" though some might think they are, but there's no way anyone could pull that much crap together in such a short time!!!!

Hey, when you have NO clue how something happened, it's human 'know-it-all" nature to MSU (make shit up)!

[FSogol]

17. Six God Days = a few billion years. n/t

[Lost-in-FL]

19. Same speed of the Bush administration getting something done

[Proud_Democratt]

34. Remember Hurricane Katrina.

[opihimoimoi]

20. Somehow...I think they camped nx to the cannabis patch and used

the cuttings for making fire.....

[ThoughtCriminal]

22. Does God sit still while creating?

If you are travelling a a few billionths of a percent below the speed of light, 6 days is several billion years relative to the origin.

THe idea that time is constant every-where and every-when is dead.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

24. What is the definition of "a day"?

[TreasonousBastard]

30. In the original Hebrew..

the "day" used in Genesis is the word specifically meaning 24 hours, but most Jews don't seem to take the creation myth nearly as seriously as some Christians do.

Took a quick peek at an "Ask the Rabbi" site and came up with these two interesting queries, which imply that Jews (who we tend to forget actually WROTE Genesis) look at the whole thing much more as a myth than we do. They've had several thousand more years to contemplate its meaning.

(google "ask a rabbi" and a whole pile of interesting sites come up)

On 10/24/99
Neville from Swansea,UK asked:

"Where do the dinosaurs fit into the creation chronology and how and why did they dissapear?

"

Rabbi Roller answered:

"If you look at the "7 days" as literal- they dont fit in, however if you look it as a paraphrase & only a pre-history before man, they do fit into history as before man, As to why they disapeared- I will leave that to ask a scientist."

On 10/6/99
Menachem from Meriden, CT asked:

"What is your take on creation? There are two different stories; the first being 1:1 to 2:3 and the second being 2:4 to 3:24. The most confusing part is that the second contradicts the first. One example of this is in Bereshit 2:5 (during the second story) it says that there was no vegetation because there was no rain and there was no man to work the soil. The first story says that vegetation came on the third day, and man came on the sixth. How could this be? According to the second story it's impossible that vegetation could exist without man. The pshat doesn't make any sense, nor does the drash. How do you explain this passage?"

Rabbi Rothstein answered:

"Dear Menachem,

The story of creation that is presented from Bereshit (Genesis) 1:1 - 2:3 is only a general summary of the creation, because its primary purpose is to teach us that nothing came into existence except at G-d’s command. The overall purpose of the Torah relating the story of creation is to refute those who claim that the universe came into existence by coincidence or accident.

In Bereshit (Genesis) 2:4 - 3:24 we find a more detailed presentation of the story & events of creation.
For example, your question regarding what seems to be a conflict regarding vegetation & the creation of man. What we call Nature functions the way G-d established it at creation. Nature decrees that it must rain for vegetation to grow, and man must work the earth for effective production. None of this occurred when vegetation was created. Rather a dew like mist arose from the earth, and this provided the water requirement for the plant life that G-d created.

Man was created outside of the Garden Of Eden, so that he could see the contrast between the thorns, thistles, and rocks of the outside world & the lush beauty of the Garden Of Eden before he was given his first commandment.

[PublicWrath]

45. It seems few Conservative rabbis take the Bible literally today:

New Torah for Modern Minds
http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/ConservativeTorah.htm

Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

-snip-

The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called ''Etz Hayim'' (''Tree of Life'' in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine document

-snip-

The notion that the Bible is not literally true ''is more or less settled and understood among most Conservative rabbis,'' observed David Wolpe, a rabbi at Sinai Temple in Los Angeles and a contributor to ''Etz Hayim.'' But some congregants, he said, ''may not like the stark airing of it.'' Last Passover, in a sermon to 2,200 congregants at his synagogue, Rabbi Wolpe frankly said that ''virtually every modern archaeologist'' agrees ''that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way that it happened, if it happened at all.'' The rabbi offered what he called a ''litany of disillusion'' about the narrative, including contradictions, improbabilities, chronological lapses and the absence of corroborating evidence. In fact, he said, archaeologists digging in the Sinai have ''found no trace of the tribes of Israel -- not one shard of pottery.''

[Ediacara]

26. Just to stir the pot

This is a literal interpretation of what Bible says in Genesis 1. It doesn't exactly describe the world we know. Actually it doesn't remotely describe it...

[Proud_Democratt]

27. That would be a correct assumption.

No one really knows for sure. According to the fundies, the world is only 6000 years old.:sarcasm:

[pyro858]

29. The bible is a fairy tale for adults

enuf said!!

[SheilaT]

31. The Genesis account

is only one of many creation myths. All of them are from people who have no real understanding of what we call science. They had no comprehension of the most basic of things we clearly understand, such as the earth is a very large round planet, not something that is carried on the back of a turtle. We know that the "vault of heaven" is not a literal thing that you'd bump up against if you went high enough. We know that the sun is a star, vastly larger than our planet and is many million of miles away, not something rather small that travels across the sky in a chariot.

And so on and so forth.

To ascribe any special truthiness (love that word) to one particular account is misguided.

And yeah, I also wonder at who voted that it's literally true. I suspect it was a couple of people who enjoy messing with our minds.

[niallmac]

32. Yup! Six days. No doubt about it.

I also believe that I helped save Tinker Bell when I clapped really hard.
If theres a bunch of people who refuse to clap I think we ought to round
up the women and children and shoot them in the head. They hate us for our faeries ya know.

[gizmo1979]

33. If there was no sun

how would god know how long a day was.Did God have days and nights weeks and months.If god created everything who created god.just wondering.

[pansypoo53219]

35. where's other?

i believe in a creator, just not genesis or big bang. thanks to Bishop Spong's book, i don't feel i hae to read the bible. now that old apocrypha i have.....

[davidwparker]

37. A problem with this is that, most people here don't know Hebrew and

everyone here was not there when the world was created.

Some points. 'Day' can mean a literal day, a framework, or a time period without regard to literal days.

Also, a Hebrew scholar said that for the first four days, there was no intent to mean a literal 24 hour period. He was a guest on the John Ankerberg show. http://johnankerberg.com/

I believe in creation, but do feel that day meaning framework is more accurate. Although I can accept that God spoke things into existence within 6 literal days, day 6 has a lot of activity for a 24 hour period.

Moses, like all human writers, have trouble describing the things of God. Daniel had trouble understanding the future and that was with the help of an angel to interpret. John had trouble describing Heaven and the things that would pass at the end of the age.

To be confident of what did happen, you had to be there. Only God was.

[The Magistrate]

47. In Other Words, Sir

The narration can only be regarded as so unreliable that no fact can be considered to have been transmitted through it. It is therefore worthless as a description of anything in particular, for no one can possibly agree on what were the facts it was intended to convey, only that the attempt to convey them failed. It means, quite literally, all things to all men, and what can mean anything can only mean nothing.

[davidwparker]

56. The example being, what you just typed. I cannot make heads

nor tails of what it is suppose to mean.

http://johnankerberg.com/TV/now_playing_GDSB1.htm

The playback requires MS Media.

[JerseygirlCT]

39. Allegory nt

[Random_Australian]

40. No I don't. n/t

[SPKrazy]

43. It's Just A Story About Creation-Keep It In Context of Who Wrote It

And when-written by wandering nomads in the desert long ago

it was probably passed down by oral tradition

it's maybe metaphor for evolution-each day representing some phase of evolution as wandering nomads might have been able to understand it.

[moobu2]

44. Every culture had it’s creation myths

The one Christians stole from the Jews is no different.

[Proud_Democratt]

46. Correct, it was stolen from the Jews.

Most stories, events of Christianity are taken from other beliefs.

[rasputin1952]

49. I find the whole Creation idea something of an anomaly...

How do you have a day if the sun wasn't there until the 4th "day"? Expanses of Seas were created on the 2nd day, but w/o a moon, and plenty of time to get tides moving, the earth was nothing but a huge ball of water whirling through the Cosmos, sloshing all over the place.

The earth is the only place in the universe we know of where a "day" can be counted on as 24 hours, and it was not always so, the earth has slowed over the millenia, at one time, a "day was 10-15 hours.

These are points that are often argued, but think about this for a second, not everything can be explained literally in the Bible as so many contend. You have Adam and Eve, they have Cain and Abel, Cain kills Abel...we are not here, end of the lineage right there.

To add to the confusion, God tells Cain to go out and get a wife, have children and multiply, he is also instructed to build cities.......hmmmm, where does this wife come from? Cities for whom? The "Mark of Cain" so no one would kill him...who was there to kill him? Obviously, the whole story was not produced in Genesis, if one wishes to go that route.

There are zillions of religious arguments that come from all of this and other things written in the Bible, but I think that science and religion work together, and time is meaningless beyond the earth as far as religion is concerned...billions of years passed as life was growing on this planet and to just think that "bam" it all happened all at once misses the facts that have been gathered over the past ages of science as well as the present. Maybe, just maybe, the writers thought that "day" was as good as any word to describe what took billions of years.

I do not hink it is my place to question anothers belief system, but I beleive it is responsible to think and seek out answers and not just go with one thing because someone said it is so w/o anything to back it up.

[varkam]

50. Nothing was created.

The matter from which we and our universe are made has always simply been here - for eternity. Matter cannot be obilterated into nothingness, and so likewise matter cannot be created from nothingness. Seems fairly simple to me.

[Random_Australian]

51. I disagree - matter pops into and out of existence all the time. (With

no cause).

See especially: (but not limited to)
- Virtual particles/ virtual pairs
- Vacuum energy

[varkam]

53. Damn you RA!

And all your school learnin' about "virtual particles" and such. You think you're better than me, don't you?! DON'T YOU?!

:)

[Random_Australian]

54. Sorry, but I lurve my 'abstract nonsense' as the person in the other

thead said. Stupid abstract things like microprocessors and atomic bombs that have no real consequence!

:D Gotta love Quantum Physics! Not only does it act in a way completely contrary to our perception of reality, but it is verifiable by experiment!

[varkam]

55. That's why I studied "soft sciences" like psychology!

Everything else hurt my head too much.

So matter really can just blip right out of existence? Could it be that it's just "hiding" and we don't know where it's at?

[Crunchy Frog]

57. "Could it be that it's just "hiding" and we don't know where it's at?"

If so, I wonder if it's the same place where all my socks and pens go.:D

[SidDithers]

58. The universe was created in six business days...nt

Sid

[beam me up scottie]

59. ROFLMAOIPIMP !!!

You kill me Sid!