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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:22 PM
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God created Adam and Eve
not Adam and Steve. I know this because the Bible tells me so. But I'm confused. After Cain killed Abel, God sent him out of the Garden of Eden to the land of Nod. When he got there the Bible says that Cain "knew his wife" and had a son, Enoch. When did God create this other woman? It appears that people were living in the land of Nod. How did they get there? The Bible doesn't say anthing about God creating them, only Adam and Eve. Where'd all these other people come from?
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:24 PM
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1. mars, astra, titan -- take your pick
i've always thought the adam and eve story sound a little too much like a lab experiment. the rib thing sounds like genetic material to me -- bone marrow.
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:24 PM
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2. Moses said abracadabra
and the whole story suddenly appeared on stone tablets.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:24 PM
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3. God also created Lilith
Adam's first wife....
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:30 PM
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7. I've heard that story
But it's not in the Bible. It has to be in the Bible for it to be true.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:25 PM
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4. Maybe they evolved from...
a common monkey ancestor? :shrug:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:27 PM
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5. oops.
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 01:29 PM by BrklynLiberal
Let's see. Could that possibly mean that the Bible should not be taken literally? Or did Cain have a baby with his Mother...oh no! That is incest!
Maybe these people came from another planet? A parallel universe?
Why hasn't Billy Graham or Jerry Falwell or one of those pillars of knowledge answered that question yet? Or is one not allowed to ask questions like that?
And I always thought Maurice Sendak created the Land of Nod!!!
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:34 PM
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8. Did Cain have a baby with his mother?
According to the Bible, I don't think so. God banished Cain away to the land where the wild things are, er, land of Nod, but Eve stayed back with Adam.

Lot's daughters commited incest though.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:38 PM
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11. You can bet your old testament that Graham and Falwell
already have pat answers to those elemental questions.
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:28 PM
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6. Duh? Cain's wife was an Ape.
Haven't you studied evolution???? (silliness/sarcasm)
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:35 PM
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9. oh be careful...
questioning the WORD might upset some people! lol

What upsets me? People who choose to belive that...
1. the current version of the bible is accurate compared to the originals...
2. that the originals are accurate versions of the incidents that happened thousands of years before they were ever written down.
<sigh>

There is a GOD out there, I feel it inside. But God gave me a brain, I choose to use it. He (or she! :0) gave me a heart and I choose to use it. When these fundies start "quoting", and my gut (Brain + Heart = Gut) says BULLSH*I!, I go with it..

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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:41 PM
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13. IMO there is a difference between
Belief in God, although I'm not sure what that means, which allows for belief in evolution verses belief in specific religious dogma.

One belief system is open, the other is closed to new ideas. Look what we've learned about the world in just the past 100 or even 50 years!! What is going to happen to these closed belief systems in 500 or 1000 years. It seems the only way to keep some of the beliefs based on dogma alive is to stifle intellectual research and progress, which is underway.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:44 PM
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16. Religiophobia: another word hijacked by the far right
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 01:45 PM by ultraist
Excellent point! The OT was written only after thousands of years of the stories being passed down through Oral Tradition. Beyond that point, numerous versions were compiled.

Those who do not interpret the OT or the NT literally, should be careful in how they craft their positions on seperation of church and state and freedom of religion. The far right has hijacked the word, "religiophobe" to label anyone who is not an extremist fundie. We've seen the Repubs do this time and time again. Anyone who voices dissent, is an American hater, anyone who supports pro-choice is a baby killer, anyone who is not a born again Christian, is a heathen or pagan, etc.

The fact is, it is the fundies who are the religiophobes, they fear and hate all other religions and have a long history of going to extreme and violent lengths to maintain their power, dating back to the crusades.

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 06:53 PM
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21. how should we craft our positions?
suggestions?
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:36 PM
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10. Check 16th verse in Genesis and you see that God created
the Earth and plants days before he created the Sun. Further, how could there be "days" when there was no Sun? How could anyone take that crap seriously?
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AngelAsuka Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:38 PM
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12. The Land of Nod
Perhaps thats where all the Nephilim who sought human women were. I mean, quite clearly there had to be *some* other bloodline. So Cain had to go court someone away from a half-devil.

Oh wait...thats an anime plotline. :dunce: :) :tinfoilhat:

~~AA~~
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:43 PM
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15. Nephilim, hmm...
According to the Bible, they did seek human women. But Cain was a guy! Maybe those Nephilim went both ways? What troubles me though, is that they aren't catalogued in the list of God's creations. He created Adam and Eve, that was it.

Now it's even more confusing.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:43 PM
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14. The Bible is a work of fiction. It does not bear well under scrutiny.
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 01:44 PM by HypnoToad
As does anything else humanity ultimately writes.

This does not mean God does not exist. But the humans who wrote it were a few wheels short of a car...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:46 PM
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17. Silly. The victors write the history and Nod lost.
JOKE! it was a joke!

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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:00 PM
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18. Well the Bible isn't to be taken literally
Edited on Sun Jan-23-05 02:00 PM by BayCityProgressive
Anyone who takes it that way is a fool. A Kabbalistic interpretation of the Torah is really very interesting though.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:03 PM
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19. I know
you know

trust me...some don't know
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 02:25 PM
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20. Fairy Tales and Fables
passed down through generations with everyone adding their little twist of it. Folk lore. It all makes absolutely no sense.
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