Is George W Bush the "anti-Christ" ??

[kentuck]

Looking at his present poll numbers, one might think he's been kicked out of heaven and he's taken a third of his Kool-aid drinkers with him. They have forever chosen to be on the darkside, following the false prophet. Cloaked as a man of peace, he kills whenever he gets the chance. And the Kool-aid guzzlers follow his shadow like a third of the stars that were dragged out of heaven by his swaggering tail.... :)

[DoYouEverWonder]

1. If he's not

he's a close runner up.

[lonestarnot]

2. They are frozen in time and birds of a feather.

[yourout]

3. No.....he is to stupid to be the anti-christ.

[Alamom]

9. My thoughts exactly. n/t

[Bad Penny]

53. since when has evil ever been smart?

[davidinalameda]

66. thank you

he's not evil-just a first class fuck up

[Gman]

4. JPII suspected Bush was the anti-Christ

and shared that thought with some.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0MKY/is_9_27/ai_108881880

[AuntiBush]

7. Man.

Can you give it a break, already. Is your mission to keep that message up on every darn post out here.

Go on now. Enough is enough.

[libhill]

20. Why give it a rest?

I don't believe in that stuff, but man do I relish the irony. I almost wish that "Revelations" stuff were true, and that Shrub was the Anti-Christ. The Bush worshiping, Fundamentalist, Repuke sycophant morons worship the ground Bush walks on... imagine if he were the Anti-Christ, who's coming they all anticipate with such morbid dread? I'd laugh my ass silly at the fucking idiots. :)

[spacelady]

42. Well, AuntiBush, maybe it cannot be said enough.

Have you ever experienced that deep in your gut intuition?

[porphyrian]

5. He's not that important outside of his own mind. - n/t

[Quantess]

28. I beg to differ..

* IS tremendously important to the unfolding of global events in a horribly destructive way!

[porphyrian]

35. Only inasmuch as those surrounding him.

On his own, he's nothing more than an incredible failure with equally incredible entitlement issues. Had he never been born, would the events that plague us today have still occurred? It's impossible to say for sure, but I'm betting it would be similar. He is only a disposable face to the PNAC, and even in that capacity, he's done poorly.

[Quantess]

54. * is all privilege and no class.

"Had he never been born, would the events that plague us today have still occurred? It's impossible to say for sure, but I'm betting it would be similar."

Yes, I agree with you.
* was in the right place at the right time to fill the open position for Eminent Asshole in Chief. Or, the wrong place at the wrong time, for the evil sequence of events to manifest into its ugly fruition. There may have been a cosmic hole in the fabric of the universe, or maybe, more like a growing cancer that gave * his entrance into despotism. I'm being poetic here...

But in the end, * himself is just an empty puppet.
There is a hand of malevolence controlling the puppet, though, which should not be taken too lightly.

(edited for clarity)

[Ringo84]

6. Anti-Christ

No, because that's what idiotic fundies do - make claims about who's the anti-Christ and saying that GAWD was returning soon.
Ringo (D-VA)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

8. No. Just a minor demon. I do believe that when he talks about his higher

father, he's talking about a different god.

[Leopolds Ghost]

33. His Elder God, you mean?

GEORGE W. BUSH: "Either you're with me or you're with my Lord and Master when he comes down from beyond the stars to eat our brains!"

TIME: "Polls suggest that if the Antichrist did come to earth and devour everybody, it would provide an unexpected boost to the president's sagging popularity numbers!"

[saltpoint]

10. He's the warm-up band for the Anti-Christ.

In the contract it expressly says the Anti-Christ can't smirk.

But Dubya was such a little monster anyway that they let him do the opening act.

[havocmom]

13. Yeah, isn't the anti-christ supposed to be all charming and everything?

Beware the dark horse that follows bush

[saltpoint]

19. Damn, I hope it's not Mike Gravel!

[libhill]

29. Well -

he seems to have charmed enough asshats that they put him in office two times around....?

[havocmom]

47. That was Diebold, not charm

;)

[spacelady]

44. Hillary Clinton was recently compelled to say * was charming.

How did THAT happen?

[lvx35]

11. Hehe Rove's last speech reminds me of that speech from paradise lost

" The mind is its own place, and in itself,
Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n."

Kind of sums of the republican denial, eh?

[MoonRiver]

12. Check this out:

http://www.bushisantichrist.com/

It has resonated with me since I saw it years ago. :scared:

[jody]

14. George is 6 letters, Walker is 6, and Bush Jr is 6. That's 666! n/t

[iconoclastic cat]

18. If Man is five,

Then the Devil is six, and if the devil is six, the George is seven!

[azurnoir]

32. Ronald Wilson Reagan

also 666 maybe they are "legion"

[Proud_Democratt]

59. here's 2 more sixes.....his birthday is 7-6-46

But do I believe in a singular person Antichrist??? NNNNNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

[Warpy]

15. I think of Antichrist less as a single person than as people

who have completely rejected the teachings of Christ (charity, humility, respect and tolerance for everyone) in favor of the current loopy Calvinism that says entry to heaven is predetermined and only those folks who give adequate lip service have their ticket punched and they are allowed to wreak havoc here on earth and be completely forgiven. The Calvinists have managed to completely excise everything but the name from Christianity, and they represent the Antichrist to me, especially once they get rapture addled.

They are always going to be with us, too.

The trick would seem to be to refuse to allow them to steal the name, to point out the teachings they have rejected, to refuse to be buffaloed by some sort of shared superstition that anyone who CALLS himself a Christian must be one.

By their works shall we know them.

[Quantess]

56. Sure, but,

the abhorrent acts of the * administration, in sheer terms of disregard of Christ's teachings, have completely surpassed anything a Calvinist heathen could have accomplished.
(I don't even know what a Calvinist is, and I don't really care.) The take home message is that Satan is in closer wraps with the * Administration than any single person today.

[Rocknrule]

16. The only reason I don't think he is

is because the AC is supposed to get the whole world to follow him, and W only has 2% of the world on his side

[shadowknows69]

17. Actually I think we'd do well to convince the fundies he is

The Democratic party could suddenly become the "Valeues party"

[The Wielding Truth]

21. Well, he certainly is the Anti-American.

[SparklyJr]

22. If Jesus were alive today...

... I don't think he would not be friends with Dubya.

[spacelady]

46. That is a double negative. Sorry.

[SparklyJr]

62. Oops, I meant..

Me and my ridiculous typos. I meant "If Jesus were alive today, I do not think he would be friends with George Bush."

Meh. Wasn't very important insight, anyway.

[Blue_In_AK]

23. Did anybody else see the History Channel's take

on the Antichrist a couple of nights ago? There was some serious cognitive dissonance going on there. The fundies were laying out all these attributes of the supposed antichrist and all of the current signs that are supposedly fulfillments of the prophecies, but everything they said was something the ** administration has brought about. And yet they support these evil people and think they're the antithesis of the antichrist. I really don't get it. Hello??? Open your eyes, and by all means, open your mind.

[libhill]

45. I saw it -

and I agree with your take on it - I kept snapping at the screen, "that describes your boy Bush", over and over again. I thought I was the only person to pick up on that...

[Mr_Spock]

24. Yes

He is everything Christ wasn't. People think you have to be smart to be the anti-Christ - isn't that oxymoronish? :rofl:

[gumby]

25. Once again, here's my favorite "sign."

Ever notice the 3 "dots" that appear sometimes on the inside of GeeDub's left eyebrow? Every once-in-a-while, the space between his brows will be occupied by three dots on the left side.

I always imagine that if you look really close, those dots are the miniature numbers 666.

Whatever the explanation, those 3 'dots' really do come and go. Surely, everyone has seen them?

[lonestarnot]

26. Have a link to the pic?

[gumby]

39. No specific pic.

Like I said, they come and go. But they really ARE there sometimes. It's kind of a game here -- "there are the dots."

Maybe it's the lighting, maybe it's the makeup, maybe it's the way he slept on his special pillow. Keep looking, I bet you will see them too. It looks like 3 dots on the inside (closest to the nose) of his left eyebrow.

[davekriss]

27. No

The AntiChrist will be very clever, highly charismatic, and fool more than half the world. George Bush fools no one except for some backwaters in the American cesspool.

[Warren DeMontague]

30. I bet if he was desperate &locked out of the Air Force One Liquor Cabinet

he might drink "anti-freeze"

[Protagoras]

31. At the least he's trying hard

to fill those shoes.

[treestar]

34. The anti-christ has 666 to his name and the only one who qualifies is

Ronald Wilson Reagan.

[Leopolds Ghost]

43. And lo! He sat on a pale horse, and with it a pale chimpanzee...

Where does Bonzo fit in? Some relation to Hellboy here... does W like cats?

[libhill]

51. And,

I recall reading something about the Anti-Christ making a sudden recovery from a head wound, and that fits Raygun too. But Raygun is dead, and Jaysus nver came back to save us - wtf?

[shadowknows69]

61. Have you ever driven in DC traffic?

He's still on the way.

[Canuckistanian]

36. Look at this paragraph from Wikipedia

Christian denominations disagree on what will happen in the end times, and the role that Satan and the Antichrist will play. Among those who believe that the Antichrists of whom John was writing are instead a single individual and expect this one to arise in the future, there is a general consensus that sometime prior to the expected return of Jesus, there will be a period of "trials and tribulations" during which the Antichrist, inspired by Satan, will attempt to win supporters with great works, and will silence anyone or make enemies of any country that refuses their allegiance (by refusing to "receive his mark" on their foreheads or right hands). This "mark" is expected to be required to legally partake in commerce, as noted in the book of Revelation. Some Christians believe that the Antichrist will be assassinated half way through the Tribulation, being revived and indwelt by Satan. The Antichrist will continue on for three and a half years following this.<1>

[Rainscents]

37. Yup... After tonight's speech and talking about 666, I am a believer

now! :D

[C_U_L8R]

38. no .. he's just a bad man

a very bad man

[driver8]

40. I am thinking that on 6/6/06...we will find out!

I have always thought that he was...either shrub or Cheney.

[genieroze]

48. Maybe that's the day we will nuke Iran. Imagettin outta here.

[genieroze]

41. Is George W Bush the "anti-Christ" No, he's anti-Christian. Real

Christians who actually read and believe their bible would never condone what Bush has done.

[Leopolds Ghost]

49. Not tall enough to be the Anti-christ... tho' he does have Randall Flagg's

cowboy boots...?

[midnight]

50. Maybe this whole administration is.

This administration lies about the WMD, they create a 9-11, fiddle why our southern families drown, Rob our New York bank of the largest heist in history and omit a paper trail, out a Cia agent, cause mothers to grieve beyond belief. They do it all in the name of God? Not my god!

[KoKo]

52. This "move" of your post gave me a chuckle....

sorry just :silly: tonight. Don't think I've ever seen you have a "moved" or "locked" post, Kentuck!

[Bad Penny]

55. Nostradamus

was pretty much spot on predicting Napoleon and Hitler as anti-christs (as accurate as you can get peering into a bowl of water and seeing images flash before your eyes at 3 AM)

Mabus is the name for his third anti-christ. There's enough of 'Bush' in there to make me a believer.

To anyone who can think for themself Bush is the despicable and revolting layer of slime you find at the bottom of the human barrel. To everyone else who needs their leaders to think for them Bush is charming, smart, dashing and a man of god. Bush is an anti-christ. And every bit as vainglorious, nasty, greedy, wicked, destructive and STUPID as Hitler and Napoleon.

[InaneAnanity]

57. No

That would mean I couldn't be.

[Random_Australian]

58. Nope. Any other questions?

[Proud_Democratt]

60. Not smart enough!! He waved at Stevie Wonder.

[moobu2]

63. No because I am

My phone # starts with 666 so I must be.

[Evoman]

64. And your name is closer to Mabus that bush is.

By the gods...christians were right! There is an antichrist and his name is moobu2...I'm going to be sick. All my non-beliefs shattered!!

Hehe..or not.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

65. I just can't ascribe to him that level of..

of... spiritual importance?

So, nah.

[Done]

67. It’s possible. Bush isn’t finished yet.

On the day Reagan became president I was flying to Hawaii. There was a solar eclipse, although it wasn't visible because of all the cloud cover. It was a dark, eerie day.

Throughout the Reagan years my friends and I would talk, from time to time, about Reagan being the anti-Christ. After all, he had 666 in his name and his press secretary had a fatal head wound from which he survived. We didn't take it too seriously. None of us even read those ancient books. We were young at the time. It was something to talk about while drinking or getting stoned. Young people have a tendency to hope for exciting times.

Reagan came and went, and the world survived so it became foolish to talk about Reagan being the anti-Christ. I forgot about it all.

Sometime after 9/11, George W Bush gave a speech in which he said he would destroy all evil. I watched the live speech and I was astounded. George W Bush was proclaiming himself God. Bush even named the war in Afghanistan “Operation Infinite Justice” until the Muslims complained saying that only God can execute infinite justice.

I began to do some research. I read Revelation, Daniel, Ezekiel, the Apocrypha, and other prophesies. I came to realize that the anti-Christ and the “beast” are two different things. What's more, the “beast” is the one who brings the destruction, not the anti-Christ; and there is more than one beast. The second beast is called a false prophet, but he exercises the same authority as the first beast. If the first beast is a king, the second beast would be a king who occupies the same throne.

Who is the anti-Christ?

Technically, the “anti-Christ” is only used on a few occasions in the Bible, and it seems to be describing the Gnostics or perhaps false Christianity. The Bible does seem to indicate that there will be a false version of Christianity before the end of the world. (2 Thessalonians 2:3)

The followers of this false Christianity will believe themselves to be more righteous than others, more beloved of God having done great things for God. (Matthew 7:22-23) The anti-Christ (false Christianity) will reject redemption by Christ and will teach that we must “climb” our way to eternal Heaven. (2 John 1:7) (John 10:1)

The evangelical Christians look like they could be the anti-Christ. The evangelicals believe that they are more righteous than others. They believe that they deserve eternal Heaven, not because of Jesus, but because of their “accepting” Jesus while all non-evangelicals will be tormented in hell.

The evil political leader is called the “beast”, not the “anti-Christ”. Of all world leaders in history, Ronald Reagan remains the best candidate for the first beast.

• Ronald Wilson Reagan did have 666 in his name. (Revelation 13:18) (Having six characters in three names is more impressive than anything that can be derived from numerology. With all the different languages, all the different variations in translation, all the different methods of numerology, numerology can derive 666 from a great many current and historical names.)
  
  
• Reagan's press secretary did have a head wound unto death, yet lived. (Revelation 13:3) (James Brady).
  
  
• Reagan died in his own bed in torment. (2 Esdras 12:26) (The book of Esdras describes a three-headed eagle to appear in the last days. The three heads are said to represent three of the final kings of the kingdom of the eagle. These will be three evil kings (Reagan, Bush, and Bush). The first head of the eagle dies in his own bed in torment.
  
  
• Reagan commanded the world's greatest military. (Revelation 13:4). The beast doesn’t actually rule the entire world since there are other nations that make war both for and against the beast. The beast has authority or power over the world in that he rules the most powerful nation.
  
  
• The first beast of Revelation leads into captivity and is led into captivity. (Revelation 13:10) (Reagan led into captivity: Iran-contra. Reagan was led into captivity: Alzheimer's.)
  
  
• The first beast is not said to govern for three and a half years; it says that power is given to him to continue for three and a half years. That would be about the time that Reagan slipped into Alzheimer’s disease, which greatly derailed him and his agenda.
  

The two Bush presidents are more consistent with the second beast of Revelation.

• The second beast has two horns like a lamb. (Revelation 13:11)
  
  
• The second best is called a false prophet; George Bush is an evangelical who thinks he's on a mission from God. (Revelation 16:13)
  
  
• George Bush was (president), is no longer (president), and yet at the same time is (president). (Revelation 17:11)
  
  
• Both presidents Bush have killed with the sword, and both will ultimately die by the sword. (Revelation 13:10) This is consistent with the book of Esdras, which says the other two heads of the eagle will die by the sword.
  
  
• The beast is one of the seven (final) kings; he is also the eighth, yet there are only seven. (Revelation 17:10) This is because having the same public name (George Bush & George Bush) means the two presidents are ONE person considering the Biblical importance and symbolism of a person's name. In reality, Bush and Bush are two people. Thus, George Bush is one of the seven final presidents; and he is also two of the eight final presidents. (All eight being alive with Reagan took office).
  
  
• The first George Bush desecrated the temple. (Revelation 13:6) (During Vice President Bush's trip to the Middle East in 1986, Bush prayed at the western wall in between conversations with Ollie North about Iran-contra which was `wickedness').
  
  
• The second Bush proclaimed himself God. (2 Thessalonians 2:4) (Bush said he would "Destroy all evil", and execute "Infinite Justice".)
  
  
• Seven angels are said to blow seven trumpets. After the first trumpet is blown there are events that could be seen as WWI. After the second trumpet: WWII, after the third: Chernobyl, after the forth: Desert Storm. After the fifth trumpet is blown, smoke from the bottomless pit will darken the sun and the air, as locusts like scorpions are permitted to torment people for five months. (Revelation 9:2) Apache helicopters resemble locust with a scorpion's tail and Operation Desert Scorpion lasted for five months. The smoke that darkened Iraq came from oil fires. This means that the phrase “bottomless pit” can, at least on some occasions, be referring to oil since oil was the source of the smoke and the “bottomless pit” is said to be the source of the smoke. The beast is said to ascend out of the bottomless pit. (Revelation 17:8) Meaning the beast will come from the oil industry.
  
  
• This beast goes into perdition or destruction. (Revelation 17:11) Meaning he's the one who brings on the destruction.
  

Conservative Bible-thumpers become angry when I say Bush may be the beast and they may be the anti-Christ (go figure). Liberals, who mostly don't believe in God or the Bible, will dismiss any talk of Biblical prophecy because the Christians have left a bad taste in the mouth of every thinking person regarding the Bible. And while liberals hate Bush, many would say that Dubya is too stupid to be the beast. In fact, the prophecies describe a man who is very arrogant, but say nothing of his intelligence.

I am not a very religious person, and I have often doubted if there is a God. If there is no God, it is still possible that Daniel, Ezekiel and John were great psychics who really did foresee an enigmatic vision of Bush destroying the world. If there is a God, and Bush is the beast, it means that the evangelicals are wrong; they are anti-Christ, and maybe God is not such a bad guy after all. Maybe even the evangelicals will be better off for it.

Don

[indigolake]

68. If the Pope said so...

Any devout Catholic knows that when a pope talks we ought to listen. If our beloved Pope JPII said he suspected GWB to be the anti-christ, then we'd better take heed.

When do the seven pretty white horses arrive?