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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:23 AM
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Interesting Article: "The Good Old Days"
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 10:25 AM by CornField
I came across this article by Rob Boston while researching something else. Originally published in August 2002, it was enough of a gem to pass along here. Boston is the Asst. Director of Communications for the national office of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

...a type of "generic Protestantism" reigned supreme in the late nineteenth century, often receiving favors and special treatment in the law. Blasphemy was a criminal offense in most states, and the laws were occasionally enforced. Religious leaders, working with government officials, had great sway over the types of public amusements allowed. Religiously inspired censorship was common. Mandatory Sunday-closing laws were the norm in most states. Protestant prayer and Bible reading saturated many public schools. Other religions, especially Roman Catholicism and Mormonism, were viewed with official distrust and suspicion.

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Religious leaders frequently enlisted government authorities and newspaper editors in high-profile crusades against various forms of entertainment that today are considered benign. The theater was one frequent target. In 1879 an eccentric Jewish entrepreneur named Salmi Morse attempted to stage in San Francisco a theatrical version of Christ's passion. Insisting it was sinful and sacrilegious to put the life of Christ on the stage, outraged ministers besieged the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, which banned the play. Morse went to court, but lost when a local judge ruled that his Passion play offended Christianity, which government had a right--indeed, a duty--to protect: "The Board of Supervisors," wrote Judge Morrison, "has seen fit to prohibit the exhibition in question because such an exhibition is, in their opinion, against good morals, because it is calculated to bring religion, which is
the foundation of all morality, into ridicule and contempt, and because the sacred mysteries of the passion and death of the Redeemer upon the cross are too solemn and sacred to be made the subject of a theatrical exhibition."

Morse had equally dismal luck in the supposedly cosmopolitan New York City. Egged on by a crusading newspaper editor named Harrison Grey Fiske, the city's Board of Aldermen drafted legislation banning the play. Three years later, when Morse was finally able to stage the Passion play briefly in New York, a state senator quickly prepared legislation to prevent "any attempt to personate or represent Jesus Christ, the Savior of Mankind, in any exhibition, show, play, dramatic or theatrical performance." Morse was effectively put out of business.

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But religious leaders and their willing partners in government did more than just ban racy books and arrest blasphemers. A common problem in the "good old days" of late-nineteenth-century America was the fixation on banning commerce and work on Sundays. Most states had Sunday laws that were rigorously enforced, and always at the insistence of religious leaders intent on defending majority religious practices.


There is much more at link: http://www.auindy.org/good.html
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:41 AM
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1. Blue laws
All liquor stores still have to close on Sundays here in Minnesota, which is especially nice when you're going to have friends over to watch football and realize you're out of beer. :grr:
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 10:55 AM
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2. In Oklahoma beer is sold most everywhere - liquor has its own stores
And those liquor stores must close on Sunday.

It was quite a shocker when I moved to Iowa and found liquor on my grocer's shelves. ;)
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:24 PM
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4. You can still buy 3.2 at gas stations, can't you?
Cause nothing is better than watching the vikings lose while drinking piss water.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 01:31 PM
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6. And grocery stores.
But 3.2 ain't my definition of "alcohol". :)
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 03:07 PM
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7. Oh, I hear you.
If I drink beer, I like Guiness. So 3.2 is like drinking water. Personally I am a vodka man (russians, or vodka/cranberry).
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 03:22 PM
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8. A man after my own heart.
Vodka/cranberry is fantastic. Or jazz it up into a Cosmopolitan.

Have you tried Shakers vodka yet? It was started at a former ethanol factory in Benson, MN. (Hey, distilling equipment is distilling equipment, right?) Great stuff.

http://www.shakersvodka.com/main/index.html
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 03:24 PM
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9. I'll have to try it out
I am currently finishing a bottle of imported Czech vodka (a return to my roots, I guess).
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 03:38 PM
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10. A good friend of mine used to work for Millenium Imports.
They imported premium Polish vodka - Belvedere and Chopin. They had TONS of promotional bottles, or mislabeled bottles, or whatnot, that they just had to get rid of. Darn, huh? She kept me well-stocked with that for awhile, but alas, they got bought out by a French company and shut down her office.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 04:27 PM
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11. That sucks
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 04:29 PM by Goblinmonger
I am currently into a bottle of Chopin. Damn good stuff. A grocery store here went out of business and was selling their liquor for 33% off. Got a good deal on vodka, kahluha, couple other random things.

I have just a little left of a bottle of Dvorak. What is it with composers and liquor?
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:37 AM
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3. Wouldn't the Sunday Blue Laws be anti-semitic as Jewish business could
only then be allowed to be opened five days instead of the six offered to Christians, thus giving an economic disadvantage to one religious group?
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 12:27 PM
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5. Yeah, but you know why sunday closures are popular.
Nobody wants to work seven days a week, and the only way to keep from losing business is to make sure your competitors don't, either.

Germany has, or at least had until recently, strict Sunday closures. And I know that car dealers who have tried to open on Sunday have found bricks through windshields on Monday morning. Doesn't have much to do with religion.
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