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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 11:24 AM Original message |
Apart from the mean old atheists at DU... |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
1. Hey, we're not mean! We're grumpy! |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. the anti-religiouis meme in regards to Dems |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 11:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. So, in other words, |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Unless they have specific instances, yes |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. I agree, ayeshahaqqiqa -the vast majority of Dems are religious and |
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unschooler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 05:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
63. Rove sells the "I'm right. You're EVIL" meme. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
4. little organisation called |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Hmm, last I checked, the ACLU... |
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SCantiGOP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. thanks, trotsky |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. the public perception |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. And that public perception is 100% wrong. |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-02-06 12:07 AM Response to Reply #15 |
78. I'm a person of faith and a big ACLU supporter. |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 11:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Dean's comment was simply pointing out that Republicans ARE |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. that is part of the point |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. You're confusing defending other religions with bashing Christianity |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 04:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. perhaps more conflating than confusing |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. So the way you took it (someone who doesn't listen to radio or watch TV |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 03:40 AM Response to Reply #35 |
47. what is wrong with a little back-tracking? |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 08:28 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Except you MISQUOTED Dean, attempted to skew what he said, |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. misquoted smishquoted |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. You've had the actual quote pointed out to you several times |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I never said it was my misperception |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. So was it some other hfojvt that said |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-26-06 08:12 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. that hfojvt of the past |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. ACLU is most definitely NOT anti-Christian. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. the bashing was implied by Dean |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. So now objecting to dissolving the wall of separation between church |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. I said that the two lawsuits |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. You started out by saying the ACLU was anti-Christian, then followed |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 04:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. no, those cases were from Trotsky's post #5 |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Did you or did you not say that the ACLU was a source of anti-christian |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 04:28 AM Response to Reply #34 |
48. Flashdance - what a feeling |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Far from obvious? I guess a list of cases defending religious freedom |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. They are there to show the ACLU is pro-religious freedom |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. There was no such implication whatsoever. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 04:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. as a white Christian I took Dean that way |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. So basically, you are blaming others for the way you interpreted something |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 02:25 AM Response to Reply #30 |
46. no, I am only guessing that other white Christians will feel the same way |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 01:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. So what you're doing |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Indeed |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. You're buying right wing spin if you believe that |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 02:09 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I am not buying any spin, as I said before |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. But since the rest of what he said at the time makes it clear |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. The problem is how the religious right-wing uses the word "Christian" |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 05:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
65. well I was asking for context of the message |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Honestly, it sounds as though no-one can ever convince you |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-26-06 08:06 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. I thought I was talking about the merits, or lack thereof, |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. white bashing? on DU? |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-26-06 07:49 AM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Did I imply that I was persecuted? |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. You do realize that this idea of the ACLU as being anti-Christian |
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catabryna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
6. As a believer... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Thanks, catabryna. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. when the difference of opinion |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. No different than the opinion that all gays should be stoned |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Great point. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 01:26 AM Response to Reply #25 |
44. yes, Christians, especially liberal ones, |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Pointing out double standards is not intolerance. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. I missed the double standard somehow |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 10:25 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. You like to make shit up about people, don't you? |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-26-06 07:17 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. I made something up about you? |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-26-06 10:05 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. You have a jaundiced eye. |
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catabryna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. I'm not sure how this ended up |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. Democratic Politicians are Only Part of It |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 12:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. So you're blaming "Hollywood," the media, etc. for some of it. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Wish""The media" only produces what sells"was true - but your Hypocrites |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. the Churches are very upper middle class too |
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oneold1-4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
13. The "ugly " neo-con fundies- |
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manic expression (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
33. Where? |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
39. Christ.... |
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YankeyMCC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 08:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Thank you |
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Orangeone (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-24-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. I prefer freedom of religion |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. As compared to what, exactly? |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. A secular society is necessary... |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
71. But it does mean... |
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catmother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
59. i would like to know who started the phrase "godless liberals" |
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unschooler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Somebody on the Reagan campaign, who probably worked for |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-25-06 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
68. I for one consider myself a maltheist |
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77. It comes from a Democratic conviction that there is |
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