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Goldensilence Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:34 PM
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socialism evil for fundamentalists?
why? I think Jesus would've been a socialist.A democratic socialist.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:35 PM
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1. Evil is whatever the mullah says it is. (nt)
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mestup Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:37 PM
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2. Many fundies measure "God's ble$$ings" by how well they're doing.
That's why "the poor" must "always be among us."
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 09:01 PM
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13. The Prosperity Gospel - correlates with Old Testament emphasis
These people like to relate stories of how God "Blessed" Old Testament patriarchs by giving them lots of goats, sheep, gold, silver and wives. Er, they don't talk about the wives thing, actually. But the rest is true. There is a strong current to interpret wealth as God's blessing and poverty as a punishment for idleness.
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:40 PM
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3. There are Christian socialists. But are there liberal socialists?
Not social democrats, but true socialists who believe in eliminating private property. (I know there is a lot of semantic variability over these terms.) In any case, it seems to me that any economic system eliminating private ownership of the means of production would require a kind of totalizing polity that is anathema to liberalism.

As to Christians? Well, they're all over the map on these issues.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:43 PM
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4. Only fundies that skip the book of Acts say socialism is evil . . . .
If you read the book of Acts, it sounds like it could have been the source for much of Mr. Marx's writings.


And all that believed were together, and had all things common ~ Acts 2:44

And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. ~ Acts 4:32

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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:45 PM
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7. Great minds, ET...
Just a few seconds slower on the Submit button. ;-)

Also let's point out Acts 5 and its story of the couple who withheld some of their possessions from the group.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:52 PM
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9. We had a local clergyman
who pulled six hundred (plus) complete sentences and verses out of the Old Testament in context (not out of context like the fundies do) and showed a concordance with Marx.

And there was a priest in my home town (Charles Owens Rice) who did the same thing with the New testament.

And a local talk show host (former Franciscan Priest) makes the same point - routinely and repetitively.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:44 PM
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5. Acts 4:32
All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:44 PM
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6. This guy today asked me if I was a socialist, ARGGH!
I should have asked him if he is a fundamentalist!!

I swear next time anyone asks me if I am a Socialist my reply will be:

"Are you a fundamentalist?"
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:51 PM
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8. Fundies ignore Jesus' teaching "Then shall they also answer him,
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 02:52 PM by jody
saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?" (Mat 25:44)

And Jesus told them Go To Hell!
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:59 PM
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10. the thing of it is
Most of the idiots who say such things hold to a system of beliefs which fits their own definition of "socialism" to a T. I once pointed this out to my father, when he railed on against the New World Order, but then rattled out the right-wing line about "what has to be done". He said something very close to what Bush said about tyrants being okay, so long as he's the tyrant.

Real socialism, as practiced by progressives, is another matter entirely.
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 06:31 PM
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11. Cavlinism.
Max Weber (the brilliant German sociologist who I am naming my first son after, in the unlikely even the a produce offspring with a woman who is as big of a sociology nerd as I am), noted that some Protestant sects (Calvinists) went for material blessings so that everyone would believe they were blessed. This took root with a vengence here in the states.
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Bloodblister Bob Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:51 PM
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12. Fundie Bush administration almost socialistic. Warfare/Welfare $tate. n/t
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Goldensilence Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:40 PM
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15. huh?
yea welfare state for the rich.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 09:19 PM
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14. *shrug* my cousin the pentecostal says he has no problems
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 09:19 PM by Heaven and Earth
with social programs from the government to help the poor.

Happy 2000th post to me!
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:09 PM
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16. Congrats on the post-count!
:toast:
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