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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 05:06 PM
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Religion and crime
I've heard a number of claims pertaining to the statistical relationship between violent crime and religion. Are these true? Does anybody have statistics? I've heard it claimed both ways, and I want to find out what the actual facts are.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 05:17 PM
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1. I'd be skeptical of methodology.
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 05:17 PM by skids
Do they control for the level of religion? Like there's a big difference between a daily church/mosque attendee and a mere self-identification.

Personally I would consider all such studies with either result to be bunk. It's just not very quantifiable.

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:08 PM
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2. I found this article in the LA Times a few weeks ago
and posted it in Editorials.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-brooks1oct01,1,1240960.story?track=mostemailedlink

The dark side of faith
By ROSA BROOKS
IT'S OFFICIAL: Too much religion may be a dangerous thing.

This is the implication of a study reported in the current issue of the Journal of Religion and Society, a publication of Creighton University's Center for the Study of Religion. The study, by evolutionary scientist Gregory S. Paul, looks at the correlation between levels of "popular religiosity" and various "quantifiable societal health" indicators in 18 prosperous democracies, including the United States. <snip>

He found that the most religious democracies exhibited substantially higher degrees of social dysfunction than societies with larger percentages of atheists and agnostics. Of the nations studied, the U.S. — which has by far the largest percentage of people who take the Bible literally and express absolute belief in God (and the lowest percentage of atheists and agnostics) — also has by far the highest levels of homicide, abortion, teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases. <snip>

Murder rates? Six of the seven states with the highest 2003 homicide rates were "red" in the 2004 elections (Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, South Carolina), while the deep blue Northeastern states had murder rates well below the national average. Infant mortality rates? Highest in the South and Southwest; lowest in New England. Divorce rates? Marriages break up far more in red states than in blue. Teen pregnancy rates? The same.


I haven't tried to look for the original article in the Journal of Religion and Society, but it might make for an interesting read along the lines of your question.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:56 PM
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3. delete
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 08:57 PM by beam me up scottie
replied to wrong post
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 09:02 PM
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4. Here is the study Crunchy Frog was referring to:
Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies

A First Look

Gregory S. Paul
Baltimore, Maryland

Abstract:

Large-scale surveys show dramatic declines in religiosity in favor of secularization in the developed democracies. Popular acceptance of evolutionary science correlates negatively with levels of religiosity, and the United States is the only prosperous nation where the majority absolutely believes in a creator and evolutionary science is unpopular. Abundant data is available on rates of societal dysfunction and health in the first world. Cross-national comparisons of highly differing rates of religiosity and societal conditions form a mass epidemiological experiment that can be used to test whether high rates of belief in and worship of a creator are necessary for high levels of social health. Data correlations show that in almost all regards the highly secular democracies consistently enjoy low rates of societal dysfunction, while pro-religious and anti-evolution America performs poorly.


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Conclusion

<20> The United States’ deep social problems are all the more disturbing because the nation enjoys exceptional per capita wealth among the major western nations (Barro and McCleary; Kasman; PEW; UN Development Programme, 2000, 2004). Spending on health care is much higher as a portion of the GDP and per capita, by a factor of a third to two or more, than in any other developed democracy (UN Development Programme, 2000, 2004). The U.S. is therefore the least efficient western nation in terms of converting wealth into cultural and physical health. Understanding the reasons for this failure is urgent, and doing so requires considering the degree to which cause versus effect is responsible for the observed correlations between social conditions and religiosity versus secularism. It is therefore hoped that this initial look at a subject of pressing importance will inspire more extensive research on the subject. Pressing questions include the reasons, whether theistic or non-theistic, that the exceptionally wealthy U.S. is so inefficient that it is experiencing a much higher degree of societal distress than are less religious, less wealthy prosperous democracies. Conversely, how do the latter achieve superior societal health while having little in the way of the religious values or institutions? There is evidence that within the U.S. strong disparities in religious belief versus acceptance of evolution are correlated with similarly varying rates of societal dysfunction, the strongly theistic, anti-evolution south and mid-west having markedly worse homicide, mortality, STD, youth pregnancy, marital and related problems than the northeast where societal conditions, secularization, and acceptance of evolution approach European norms (Aral and Holmes; Beeghley, Doyle, 2002). It is the responsibility of the research community to address controversial issues and provide the information that the citizens of democracies need to chart their future courses.


The entire article can be found here http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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