Bible ...could somebody link me to New Testament contradictions that an Atheist can use in discussio

[masmdu]

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Thanks!

[Kali]

1. uh...

maybe here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=214

[Major Nikon]

2. This book

http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Interrupted-Revealing-Hidden-Contradictions/dp/0061173932

If you have a kindle capable device, you can start reading it right away.

[Pool Hall Ace]

4. Wow, that book would make a nice Christmas gift.

Thanks for the link! :hi:

[Angry Dragon]

3. More responses would be had in R/T forum

lots of agitators there

[WinkyDink]

5. Not quite sure of your point. Nobody claims the Gospel writers were God. There is ZERO

"contradiction" in the message of Christ, a message of tolerance, peace, forgiveness, charity, etc.

Ethical atheists, I would hope, would not eschew the concepts, though they do the NT's Speaker.

(_P.S. Aren't you rather seeking something like the fact that Genesis is inconsistent?)

[Goblinmonger]

8. Nobody claims that?

You need to get around more. Plenty of people believe that the bible is the word of God.

[laconicsax]

10. "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"

That's quite the message of "tolerance, peace, forgiveness, charity, etc."

This verse and others like in can be found in Matthew 10:34-39, Luke 12:51-53, 14:26, 22:36, and elsewhere.

[CJCRANE]

6. "Skeptic's Annotated Bible" is worth a try...

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

[NMMNG]

7. Here are a few

http://www.evilbible.com/

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html

http://www.atheists.org/Biblical_Contradictions

http://www.ffrf.org/legacy/books/lfif/?t=contra

[MarkCharles]

9. If you have a believer open to reading and discovery on his/her own, a lover, perphaps..

or someone you wish to be close to, I would handle this differently than simply handing them a book, or even a list of web sites.

If I were you, I would not look at the Christian holiday season as the time to spring this on someone. There is a bit of resentment present when emotional moments are met with the distress of logical realism overpowering wishful thinking.

If this is your relative or friend who is open to new ways of thinking, FINE! Shower them with books and links to whatever favorite web sites you have explored in the last month. But don't do this as a "gift", do this as a dialog some other night than Christmas eve or Christmas day.

If this is someone you want to show your real self to, who is of another persuasion, a theist, don't mix this up with their Christmas, do your own reading, and bring it up in January.


If this is someone who has expressed an interest already in learning more about atheism, or about non-believers, fine, give them one of the books you found, along with something a little more personal and more emotion-laden as a second gift, even if it's a box of chocolates, if that's what they like.

Christmas is a fine time to talk about not being Christian, but not as a "gift" to some Christian....just as a time to talk and be close to them, and give them what they need.

By the way, atheists like me DO GIVE GIFTS to both Christians and to fellow non-believers at Christmas, it's one of the best things Christianity ever came up with. But we don't mind giving gifts on other days of the year, either, any day, any time, when we think a gift is a good thing to give.