Evangelical Baptist Pastor: 'Mormonism Is a Cult, Mitt Romney Is Not a Christian'

[cleanhippie]

Robert Jeffress, the evangelical pastor of First Baptist Dallas, said Mitt Romney is not a Christian and Mormonism is a cult, after introducing Rick Perry at the Values Voter Summit Friday.

The Texas leader told The Christian Post Friday that Mormonism is not in line with the historical tenets of Christianity and is considered as a cult among mainstream Christians.

"Evangelical Christians should not vote for Mitt Romney because he’s a Mormon, therefore not a real Christian," Jeffress said.

“Historically, evangelical Christianity has never embraced Mormonism as a branch of Christianity. Mormonism has always been treated as a cult. In fact, the Southern Baptist Convention, which is the largest Protestant denomination in the world, officially labels Mormonism as a cult. It does not embrace the historic tenets of evangelical Christianity,” he said.

Jeffress added, "Mitt Romney is a good, moral person, but that does not make him a Christian."

http://www.christianpost.com/news/evangelical-baptist-pastor-mormonism-is-a-cult-mitt-romney-is-not-a-christian-57626/

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Wow, a cult and NTS all at the same time! Pot, meet kettle.

[trumad]

1. uhh....so is

Christianity

[tridim]

2. This morning on MSNBC he said he would vote for Romney over Obama..

Yep, he will vote for a cult member over a Christian.

He is a lunatic.

[begin_within]

3. All religions are cults

and God hates all religions and will punish them all.

[Kurmudgeon]

6. You're as intolerant as this pastor. And who do you think you are, Pat Robertson?

[David Sky]

11. Simply calling religions "cults" does not make one intolerant, ... imprecise, perhaps, but ..

not intolerance.

We atheists "tolerate" all religions, whether they be big ones or small ones, crazy ones or progressive ones. We "tolerate", but we question the need for them to exist, other than to make some very insecure people feel more psychologically secure by holding onto one set of any number of sets of mythical beliefs.

A "cult" is defined by Webster in one of many ways as:

"a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents"

That's pretty broad, but ANY religion could fit under thatWebster's dictionary definition.

[begin_within]

18. Simply calling religions cults makes one

precise, accurate and intolerant of religion. Religion is a poisoning of the human mind by other people. God will punish all religions.

[Kurmudgeon]

21. Or it makes one judgemental. As Christ said, "Judge not lest ye be judged"

[Kurmudgeon]

20. Calling things by names is denigrating, no matter how you slice it.

And being condescending while you're being "tolerant" isn't really all that tolerant at all.

[cleanhippie]

25. How is it you speak out of both side of your mouth at once?

Your posts reek of hypocrisy. Every single one of them. I'm sure your jesus is really, really proud.

[begin_within]

19. Why would I want to be Pat Robertson.

And all religions are poisonings of the mind by other people. God hates all religions and will punish all religions and their practicioners. God is the intolerant one, not me. If you want to be closer to God, you have to extricate yourself from religion.

[Kurmudgeon]

22. You remind me of him, especially the parts where you talk for God.

[cleanhippie]

26. Yeah, and you NEVER, ever do that.

Seriously? Are you really such a hypocrite that you don't even realize what you are saying anymore?

[Gidney N Cloyd]

4. That horrible toupee he's wearing must be choking off the blood to his brain.

And the First Baptist Dallas church sounds like a good candidate to have its tax exempt status reviewed...

[Lint Head]

5. I saw this and was dumbfounded by the interviewer. Jeffress said he wasn't a bigot

then proceeded to make several bigoted comments and the MSNBC interviewer didn't call him on it even once. She kept mentioning his introduction he made for Perry and not the statements he was making at that moment on live television. He said he is no more of a bigot than someone who prefers a Democrat over a Republican. As if preferring chocolate ice cream over vanilla is also bigoted. Equating the two shows what a small minded person he is. He has no business heading a religious organization of 10,000 as Perry indicated.

[indepat]

7. And a plethora of scads of people calling themselves "Christians" are not

good, moral people as evidenced by their works. :patriot:

[OHdem10]

8. Pators telling people how to vote is annoying to me. Somehow

it just does not register fairness on my scale.

When will the Fundies become secure enough in their
own beliefs and churches that they do not feel compeeled
to put other churches down trying to make themselves look good.

Some hold these points against Catholics. Catholicism is a
Cult. The Pope is the Anti-Christ.

Sure sign of Inferiority Complex.

However, the country was founded by people running from
Religious Persecution. This history should be enough to
make all churches be happy they have a place of worship
and make them respect THE RIGHT OF EVERY AMERICAN TO WORSHIP
where and how they so desire. Not worship if they so choose.
Mitt Romney has the right to worship as he wishes just
as any other person worships to their desires and wishes.

This country would be a better place if we render unto GOd
what is Gods and render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

[skepticscott]

9. Not just annoying

but violative of their tax-exempt status. With a little prodding, they will hopefully be getting a letter from the IRS.

[David Sky]

10. So the religiously inclined in the USA will eat their own. I wonder if that

guy would approve of a Jewish candidate for President, or a Muslim. Not to worry, I already know the answer. These people represent the same intolerance that led to the Pilgrims and the Puritans and Quakers and Catholics leaving England and the Dutch Huguenots leaving Holland, etc. They just do NOT get it! They think the freedoms of citizens of the USA simply gives them a freedom to practice more religious intolerance.

[Iggo]

12. 'These boys ain't white! These boys ain't white!'

[ChadwickHenryWard]

13. What's wrong with these people?

One patient at the madhouse wishes to inform us that another is insane. Utter hysteria.

[cleanhippie]

14. I think we all know what is wrong with these people.

But to speak out about "that which shall not be spoken about" gets one branded with labels like "militant", "bigot", "intolerant", etc.

[saras]

15. Even a broken clock... he was wrong about "good" and "moral" but right about "not a Christian"

[cleanhippie]

16. Wait, what?

If one believes in jesus and that jesus died for ones sins, doesn't that a christian make?


Is something MORE required to be a christian?

[grantcart]

17. Technically Mormonism is a 'Christian sect outside of the historical church'

At that time the threat to what is now conventional Christian thought was the Gnostic Christian movement.

The Church was sufficiently threatened by its popularity that it sought to define a very specific Christology (begotten not made, and so on)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnostic_Christianity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed


So while we can't say where it will end we know where it started, in Nicene in 325.

Mormonism which did start as a cult no longer has those attributes but is a 'sect'.

Technically it is a 'Christian Sect outside of the historical Church;.

That being way to complicated for most fundamentalists they simply call it a 'cult'.

BTW many funamentalist super churches operate in a way that while may be true to the Nicene Creed in a superficial way in fact operate much more like a Christian Cult. Pot calls kettle sort of thing.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

23. This crap happened in 1960.

John F. Kennedy spoke at a Southern Baptist convention and they made total asses of themselves.

They were convinced that if a Catholic was elected president, the Pope would be running the United States.

Kennedy made clear statements that he would follow the Constitution and the laws of the United States, and he did.

[NMMNG]

24. Mormons were Christian enough when they were pouring $$$ and effort

into the Prop8 campaign. It just goes to show how fickle RRRW Christians are. They only like you when they see in you something they can use or abuse. Beyond that you're useless scum.