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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:03 AM
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NBC apologizes for pledge edit
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/nbc-apologizes-for-cutting-under-god-from-pledge-of-allegiance-before-us-open/2011/06/19/AG8MgtbH_blog.html?hpid=z3

Just wow.

Someone else put into words what I think is a good reflection of my reaction to this story:

http://genkaku-again.blogspot.com/2011/06/pledge-of-allegiance.html

The closing really says it all:

"My idealism is such that I like to think I live in a country where NBC would not apologize and it would be understood that whatever error NBC made was a part of what made the country worth offering a pledge to. But it's hard times out there -- time to cross your fingers and slip slowly, slowly into a Third World abyss."
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haikugal Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:35 AM
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1. I say the pledge
as it was originally adopted...without 'under God'...we live in a secular country and I don't think we should apologize for it.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 10:22 AM
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2. I caught that grovelling during the telecast
Edited on Mon Jun-20-11 10:23 AM by Doctor_J
This is really repulsive on many levels

1. Why does a golf tournament telecast have to turn into a patriotism litmus test?

2. Why do these sniveling teabaggers require that everyone who wants to watch golf on TV subscribe to their neo-nazi attitudes?

3. Why does NBC grovel to a handful of certifiably insane partisans?

We're turning the once greatest country in the world into a 3rd world theocracy.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 10:29 AM
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3. I don't pledge and I don't pray.
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Thats my opinion Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 01:20 PM
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4. I'm lucky
I just record everything and watch it later so that I can zip through things like the Pledge--and commercials. I play golf and don't make it either a matter of religion or patriotism. We are not a theocracy and I have always thought DDEs putting a reference to the deity in the pledge was a cold war mistake.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:19 PM
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5. FARK Headline
"NBC apologizes for presenting Pledge of Allegiance as originally written"

http://www.fark.com/comments/6310841/NBC-apologizes-for-presenting-Pledge-of-Allegiance-as-originally-written
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:54 PM
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6. They apologize to anyone who was offended.
But I never see an apology when I am offended by the insertion of "under god". This is no two way street. I had better get out of the way before someone runs me over.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 08:57 PM
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7. Problem is - we atheists aren't citizens.
Edited on Mon Jun-20-11 09:02 PM by onager
President George Herbert Walker Dickhead Bu$h himself said so:

When George Bush was campaigning for the presidency, as incumbent vice-president, one of his stops was in Chicago, Illinois, on August 27, 1987. At O'Hare Airport he held a formal outdoor news conference. There Robert I. Sherman, a reporter for the American Atheist news journal, fully accredited by the state of Illinois and by invitation a participating member of the press corps covering the national candidates, had the following exchange with then-Vice-President Bush:

Sherman: What will you do to win the votes of the Americans who are atheists?

Bush: I guess I'm pretty weak in the atheist community. Faith in God is important to me.

Sherman: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?

Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.

Sherman (somewhat taken aback): Do you support as a sound constitutional principle the separation of state and church?

Bush: Yes, I support the separation of church and state. I'm just not very high on atheists.


http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.htm

AFAIK, my ancestors/relatives have fought in every American war - right back to the Revolution, on BOTH sides in the Civil War, and right up to Iraq/Afghanistan. (We have the land grant given to the Revolutionary veteran.) I spent 6 years in the Marine Corps. To be called a non-citizen by an overprivileged grifter like Bush really pisses me off. That was an outrageous thing for any politician to say in a secular country, let alone a sitting Vice-President. And as usual for that worthless family, he not only didn't apologize, but he had one of his official butt-munchers add insult to injury and flatly refuse to apologize.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:07 PM
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8. Isn't that downright scary?
"I'm just not very high on atheists."

Well, the feeling is mutual, I am sure.

I am sorry for you to be denigrated like this, after your service, as well as the history of service in your family. Thank you for that. I am highly offended by what you have posted, but I am not sure that I can be called a patriot any longer, so I am not going to take that part of the statement to heart. But it is very interesting that I could be said to be a non-citizen. Pappy Bush changing the Constitution---what else is new!
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