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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:34 PM
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Supreme Court refuses Ten Commandments appeal
Edited on Sat Feb-26-11 01:35 PM by onager
Hmm. This story (from Tues, 2/22) only got one quick post in GD, where it sank with just 2 replies.

Anyway, posting it here for those who might have missed the story. Here's the gist, a quick search will turn up more.

This appeal must have been a real turkey, if it was unanimouosly rejected without comment by the Court. Surely Justice/Cardinal Scalia and his butt-puppet Slappy Thomas wanted to weigh in and protect America's endangered Xian minority.

Washington – The US Supreme Court declined on Tuesday to take up a case examining whether Ten Commandments displays in two county courthouses in Kentucky were an unconstitutional endorsement of religion in violation of the First Amendment.

The action by the justices came without comment...

The counties included the Ten Commandments as part of a broader presentation of historic documents. The newer displays contained part of the Declaration of Independence, the Mayflower Compact, the national motto, and other statements referring to God and the Bible.

The displays were meant to convey the message that religion and faith are part of the foundation of the country, officials said.


Nice try, but depressingly unoriginal. Why don't these people ever try to make a Constitutional case? Oh, that's right - they can't. Since the Constitution IS the law, and it only mentions religion twice, in Article VI and the First Amendment. And both of those mentions are "Thou Shalt Nots."

As in the earlier case, the American Civil Liberties Union of Kentucky sued to block the displays, arguing that they amounted to an unconstitutional attempt by government officials to spread a religious message.

A federal judge agreed with the ACLU and issued a permanent injunction against the displays. The ruling was upheld 2 to 1 by the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals...

The majority judges said the officials’ overall purpose was still the unconstitutional use of government property and resources to spread a religious message.

In his brief to the Supreme Court on behalf of the two counties, lawyer Mathew Staver urged the justices to take up the case and use it as a vehicle to articulate a new establishment-clause standard to apply to government displays with religious content on public property.

“The confusion resulting from the lack of a coherent Establishment Clause standard will only continue to grow until this Court steps in to provide the objective standards legislators need to avoid falling into Establishment Clause traps,” Mr. Staver wrote.


But there is no confusion. There's a very coherent standard. You just happen to not like it.

And note this asshat's appeal to the memory of St. Ronnie Reagan in the next bit:

“This Petition provides this Court with the opportunity to finally tear down the walls of the labyrinth of Establishment Clause jurisprudence,” he said.

Urk...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20110222/ts_csm/364991
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:39 PM
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1. Good!!! Recommend!!! n/t
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:44 PM
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 01:49 PM
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3. Good to see my ACLU dues being put to good use.
Christian exceptionalism does seem to be on the rise in some parts of the country...
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 02:16 PM
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4. ACLU of Kentucky wins appeal against Pulaski/McCreary County religious displays (June 2010)
Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 11:26 am
Appeals Court rejects Counties’ arguments

At issue in this 11 year-old case are Ten Commandments displays that were posted in prominent locations in the McCreary and Pulaski county courthouses in 1999 ...

The ACLU of Kentucky filed these two consolidated suits in 1999 on behalf of its members in Pulaski and McCreary counties and individual residents ...

Several months after removing the second displays, the Counties posted new Ten Commandments displays. These displays of “historical documents” contained American (and earlier Colonial and British) political and patriotic documents and the Ten Commandments. Judge Coffman held that these displays too were likely unconstitutional given the displays’ history showed that the defendants’ purposes were religious, not secular, and because the displays’ effect was to endorse religion. The judge therefore enjoined this third incarnation of the Ten Commandments displays and the defendants appealed that preliminary injunction.

Both the Sixth Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed Judge Coffman’s preliminary injunction ruling. On remand, Judge Coffman issued the permanent injunctions and the Counties again appealed ...

http://aclu-ky.org/content/view/365/106/
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 02:31 PM
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5. McCreary v. ACLU (SCOTUS 2005)
McCREARY COUNTY, KENTUCKY, et al., PETITIONERS v. AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION OF KENTUCKY et al.
on writ of certiorari to the united states court of appeals for the sixth circuit
June 27, 2005

Justice Souter delivered the opinion of the Court

... Twenty-five years ago in a case prompted by posting the Ten Commandments in Kentucky's public schools, this Court recognized that the Commandments "are undeniably a sacred text in the Jewish and Christian faiths" and held that their display in public classrooms violated the First Amendment's bar against establishment of religion ...

The touchstone for our analysis is the principle that the "First Amendment mandates governmental neutrality between religion and religion, and between religion and nonreligion" ...

... the purpose apparent from government action can have an impact more significant than the result expressly decreed: when the government maintains Sunday closing laws, it advances religion only minimally because many working people would take the day as one of rest regardless, but if the government justified its decision with a stated desire for all Americans to honor Christ, the divisive thrust of the official action would be inescapable ...

Despite the intuitive importance of official purpose to the realization of Establishment Clause values, the Counties ask us to abandon Lemon's purpose test, or at least to truncate any enquiry into purpose here ...

Examination of purpose is a staple of statutory interpretation that makes up the daily fare of every appellate court in the country ...

The cases with findings of a predominantly religious purpose point to the straightforward nature of the test ...

After declining the invitation to abandon concern with purpose wholesale, we also have to avoid the Counties' alternative tack of trivializing the enquiry into it. The Counties would read the cases as if the purpose enquiry were so naive that any transparent claim to secularity would satisfy it, and they would cut context out of the enquiry, to the point of ignoring history, no matter what bearing it actually had on the significance of current circumstances. There is no precedent for the Counties' arguments, or reason supporting them ...

The Counties' second proffered limitation can be dispatched quickly. They argue that purpose in a case like this one should be inferred, if at all, only from the latest news about the last in a series of governmental actions, however close they may all be in time and subject. But the world is not made brand new every morning, and the Counties are simply asking us to ignore perfectly probative evidence; they want an absentminded objective observer, not one presumed to be familiar with the history of the government's actions and competent to learn what history has to show ...

This is not to deny that the Commandments have had influence on civil or secular law; a major text of a majority religion is bound to be felt. The point is simply that the original text viewed in its entirety is an unmistakably religious statement dealing with religious obligations and with morality subject to religious sanction. When the government initiates an effort to place this statement alone in public view, a religious object is unmistakable.

Once the Counties were sued, they modified the exhibits and invited additional insight into their purpose in a display that hung for about six months. This new one was the product of forthright and nearly identical Pulaski and McCreary County resolutions listing a series of American historical documents with theistic and Christian references, which were to be posted in order to furnish a setting for displaying the Ten Commandments ...

After the Counties changed lawyers, they mounted a third display, without a new resolution or repeal of the old one. The result was the "Foundations of American Law and Government" exhibit, which placed the Commandments in the company of other documents the Counties thought especially significant in the historical foundation of American government. In trying to persuade the District Court to lift the preliminary injunction, the Counties cited several new purposes for the third version ...

These new statements of purpose were presented only as a litigating position, there being no further authorizing action by the Counties' governing boards ...

Nor did the selection of posted material suggest a clear theme that might prevail over evidence of the continuing religious object. In a collection of documents said to be "foundational" to American government, it is at least odd to include a patriotic anthem, but to omit the Fourteenth Amendment, the most significant structural provision adopted since the original Framing ...

In holding the preliminary injunction adequately supported by evidence that the Counties' purpose had not changed at the third stage, we do not decide that the Counties' past actions forever taint any effort on their part to deal with the subject matter. We hold only that purpose needs to be taken seriously under the Establishment Clause and needs to be understood in light of context; an implausible claim that governmental purpose has changed should not carry the day ...

Nor do we have occasion here to hold that a sacred text can never be integrated constitutionally into a governmental display on the subject of law, or American history ...

Given the variety of interpretative problems, the principle of neutrality has provided a good sense of direction: the government may not favor one religion over another, or religion over irreligion, religious choice being the prerogative of individuals under the Free Exercise Clause ...

What the evidence does show is a group of statesmen, like others before and after them, who proposed a guarantee with contours not wholly worked out, leaving the Establishment Clause with edges still to be determined. And none the worse for that. Indeterminate edges are the kind to have in a constitution meant to endure ...

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&navby=case&vol=000&invol=03-1693#opinion1


... 5-4 opinion ...
http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2004/2004_03_1693
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 02:58 PM
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6. Great! The Ten Commandments are a joke, anyway
Any "god" whose worst ten things doesn't include slavery or rape isn't a "god" worth paying attention to. Some old man made this shit up in the Bronze Age to control stupid people...and it's still used to control stupid people to this day.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 11:17 PM
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7. "But there is no confusion. There's a very coherent standard. You just happen to not like it."
Exactly! That's why they denied cert.
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