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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 12:39 PM
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Tis the reason for the season! Eostre... I love our Pagan roots.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/easter1.htm

and for those that want more heres a great site about the Pagan origins of the christ myth

http://www.pocm.info/
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 12:41 PM
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1. K&R
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 12:42 PM
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2. The official Christian church accepted reincarnation until 555 AD.
The Ecumenical Council, by a narrow vote, reversed its position on reincarnation in 555 AD. Prior to that, reincarnation was preached as an accepted fact.

Isn't it funny how a bunch of men in silly clothes can get together and change how God works things?

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 12:54 PM
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5. Pssssssssssssssssssst
Everything about god is man made, including the books they wrote to spread their propaganda.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 01:26 PM
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11. DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!
Edited on Fri Apr-02-10 01:27 PM by patrice
Call the police!! Arrest this man!

You're disturbing "the peace"! (And I'd laugh if that weren't soooooooo sadly ironic.)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 01:42 PM
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16. LOL
and I am female. :rofl:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 07:09 PM
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27. ooooppss!
:blush:
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 01:24 PM
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10. And many of the attendees were married men.
"Things change."
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 01:38 PM
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13. It did? A few Neo-Platonist bishops and monks did, but I doubt it was generally accepted.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 03:56 PM
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19. the literalists ruined religion. the gnostics were destroyed and we
are left with a pedo-pope who feels its anti-semitic to call him out. sigh.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 04:11 PM
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22. And then branded Origen a heretic to boot! n/t
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 10:00 PM
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29. If you're talking about the Second Council of Constantinople, you're wrong.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 12:48 PM
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3. Yep. That egg-thing is soooooooooo Female, as in "keep 'em pregnant & un-educated, NOT inthe pulpit"
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 12:53 PM
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4. ....not to mention all those fertile rabbits hopping down the ol' bunny trail.....nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 01:23 PM
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9. AND!! What the Heck IS a "bunny trail" anyway!!! ESPECIALLY when it leads to eggs??
I'm wondering if this here holiday doesn't need some serious Parental Advisory stickers all over it.

:blush:
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 10:02 PM
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30. Some people call it the happy trail
and thats all i'll say about that.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 12:56 PM
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6. I love fertility and rebirth celebrations!
It's surprising how few "religious" people have any knowledge about their own religions. But then I suppose that is a prerequisite to following such absurdities.
:shrug::rofl::kick: & R


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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 01:05 PM
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7. Easter/ Estrus
same origin
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:41 PM
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18. I thought you wrote "same organ" for a couple of seconds.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 04:08 PM
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21. No; 'estrus' comes from the Greek for 'gadfly' or 'frenzy'
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/estrus
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ire

http://www.askoxford.com/results/?view=dict&freesearch=estrus&branch=13842570&textsearchtype=exact

Estrus is derived via Latin oestrus (frenzy, gadfly), from Greek οἶστρος (gadfly, breeze, sting, mad impulse). Specifically, this refers to the gadfly that Hera sent to torment Io, who had been won in her heifer form by Zeus. Euripides used "oestrus" to indicate "frenzy", and to describe madness. Homer uses the word to describe panic<3> Plato also uses it to refer to an irrational drive<4> and to describe the soul "driven and drawn by the gadfly of desire".<5> Somewhat more closely aligned to current meaning and usage of "estrus", Herodotus (Histories ch.93.1) uses oistros to describe the desire of fish to spawn.<6>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estrous_cycle#Etymology_and_nomenclature


Compare with:
Easter
ORIGIN Old English, related to EAST.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/easter?view=uk

Etymology: Middle English estre, from Old English ēastre; akin to Old High German ōstarun (plural) Easter, Old English ēast east
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/easter
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ShrimpScampi Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 01:19 PM
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8. Love it.
It pleases me to walk through mainstream stores during the different holidays while knowing the true origins. Ostara is a beautiful time of year...rabbits, eggs, fertility oh my! In the movie Chocolat (with Juliette Binoche) I covet her pagan chocolate molds! : )
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 01:30 PM
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12. Xtians have waged the War on Eostre
And they've screwed over many other holidays, too.

:grr:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 01:40 PM
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14. It's extremely unlikely that the Council of Nicaea was adopting Germanic or Saxon customs
when they fixed the first Sunday after the first full moon after the vernal equinox as the date of the holiday -- and it's quite certain they didn't use any derivative or cognate of "Eostre" to refer to the holiday

Christianity originated as a splinter of Judaism: the date of the Christian holiday is modeled after the date of Passover, and the traditional names for "Easter" (Pascha, Festa Paschalia, &c) are derived from the Jewish Passover
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 05:44 PM
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25. Holy S***!!
You, YOU for cryin' out loud, posted something without a source!!!

Which leads me inevitably to the question of "where DID you get this denial of various sources on the matter?"
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 01:41 PM
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15. IIRC "Easter" is cognate with the Greek deity Eos, goddess of dawn.
Both come from an Proto-Indo-European root mean both "dawn" and "east".
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 01:55 PM
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17. My semi-fundie SIL nearly passed out...
from shock when I told her the names of the days of the week were pagan.

I confess... it really felt good.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 05:28 PM
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24. Wait till you tell her about Easter....and christmas trees......
Oh, my!



mark
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 04:08 PM
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20. K&R


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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 05:45 PM
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26. W...T...F?!?! n/t
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 09:52 PM
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28. When I first saw it.....
...I couldn't look away, and I had to have it. Then, once I got it, I could never find an appropriate place to connect it to the language in a thread. So this thread was as close to an appropriate use for it that I could find.

- Rabbits. Easter. It all fits!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 05:24 PM
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23. I haven't visited the site because I am working (tax time) so I am
Edited on Fri Apr-02-10 05:25 PM by WCGreen
going to check it out later.

One observation I have is that rutting season is usually in late winter and early spring.

If I am not mistaken and the whole idea of abstaining from meat for lent came about to protect the years new birth. Plus personal and town stores were being depleted so that it is just another reason not to mess with mother nature...

K&R

http://mylungtransplantyears.wordpress.com

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