Bible study teacher arrested for molestation and sex with a minor.

[laconicsax]

http://www.katu.com/news/local/84991162.html

AUBURN, Wash. – The neighbor of a Bible school teacher accused of having sex with a 16-year-old student says he saw the teacher bring underage girls into his townhouse apartment several times over the past year.

The teacher, Scott A. Spies, 49, was arrested this past week and booked into jail for investigation of molestation, indecent liberties and sex with a minor, police said. He was released late Saturday after posting bail, records show.

Spies has been fired by the Auburn Adventist Academy, where he taught Bible study classes. School officials there are helping the 16-year-old victim in "any way they can."

Even before the arrest, however, some neighbors said they were puzzled by "weird" things they saw going on at his apartment – especially given his image as a nice, Christian guy.

I wonder if he plans to use "properly interpreted" Bible passages in his defense. Anyone who says this guy isn't a real Christian or the like is officially a moron.

The article also implies that he had a thing for group statutory rape. What a stand-up guy. Funny how the only thing keeping him from being regarded as a dirt-bag was his religious affiliation.

[Ken Burch]

1. I'm shocked...SHOCKED, I tell you....

:sarcasm:

:eyes:

:puke:

[WVRICK13]

2. Must Be A Mistake

A religious man molesting somebody, come on now. LOL

[mwb970]

3. Does extreme religion turn people into monsters like this?

Or does this type of person gravitate toward extreme religion? The two occur together too often to be unrelated.

[Lochloosa]

4. IMO they turn to religion because of the suppressed urges.

Then they are faced with easily manipulated kids. Recipe for disaster.

[Ken Burch]

10. That's actually been documented, I believe

A lot of people with pedophilic tendencies join the clergy because they think the rules they're required to live under in the clerical world will help them restrain themselves. Never works.

[DeSwiss]

6. Is Catholicism, or Baptist-ism considered "extreme"?

No, it's not religious extremism -- it is the delusion inherent within all religions that causes this. It opens the door for just about every thing terrible that humans have done to each other, under the guise of love, trust, morality and safety within the group. Any purposeful investigation into the history of religion will bear this out.

Abusers and manipulators realize that anyone who'll convince themselves of the things required to be a religionist, can be deceived, manipulated and battered usually with little effort or trouble. In fact, it is religion's being mainstream rather than extreme, that more often makes these children vulnerable.


- Because they're most often lead into the jaws of these monsters by those closest to them who are telling them it is god's will that they submit.....

[PassingFair]

8. No, the problem lies in people trusting them with their children.

How many of the Catholic child molestation
cases involved priests "sleeping over"
in KID'S ROOMS while the parents slept?

Would you invite the school JANITOR to share
your kid's bedroom?

The assumption that a "religious" person is
safer than an non religious person is the
problem.

On edit: When I was growing up, more shit
when on in church "youth groups" than
high school parties.

Horny little christians with no other outlet
for socializing and no real knowledge of
the "leaders"....no thanks.

[ChadwickHenryWard]

12. Not necessarily.

Just because they occur together often does not mean that they occur together more frequently than the pairings of "child molester and moderate religious sensibilities" and "child molester and lack of particular religious feeling." Before causation can be deduced, correlation must be shown. Just because they happen together a lot does not mean that they necessarily have anything to do with one another.

I think it's important to note that a child molester's religious sensibilities are only ever discussed when they are particularly fervent. If the criminal doesn't espouse particularly strong religious belief, it's hardly going to make it into the headlines. I think an atheist's lack of belief would be met with similar silence unless it had been notable beforehand (if he had written a book about atheism, for instance.) The reason for this, I believe, is that religion is often touted as making humans more moral, and it follows that the more religious one is the more moral one should be. This is markedly not true, with this case being a fine example.

[DeSwiss]

5. Isn't he lucky....

...that the term "being fired by the church" doesn't mean what it used to.





K&R

[laconicsax]

9. All things considered...

If it still meant what it used to, the victim would probably be 'fired' instead of the church employee.

[MineralMan]

7. It seems like 16-year-old girls are the bane of youth pastors

everywhere. Back in 1962, the youth pastor in the church I attended was caught with his pants down, with a 16-year-old girl in attendance. He suddenly left town, for some reason.

[dmallind]

11. OK lemme guess

It's not about religion (so he got the teenage nymphos in his place for entirely secular reasons/excuses?)

He didn't belong to a mainstream denomination (how extreme is this church? How much does it differ from standard Xianity?)

Atheists do bad things too (how many serial pedophiles lure kids into their houses for discussions of atheism?)

[laconicsax]

13. Pretty much...

Though the people who make those claims have been gratifyingly mute.