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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:47 AM
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Top Ten Reasons Christian Zionism "Impairs Israel's Interests"
Christian Zionism:
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Dispensationalist Christianity, an interpretive or narrative framework for understanding the overall flow of the Bible, teaches that Christianity did not replace Judaism, but that it restored lost elements of it.

The dispensationalist view of the Bible is that the Old Testament is foreshadowing for what will occur in the New Testament and, at the end, Jesus returns to reign on Earth after an epic battle between good and evil.

Israel plays a central role in the dispensationalist view of the end of the world. The establishment of Israel in 1948 was seen as a milestone to many dispensationalists on the path toward Jesus’ return. In their minds, now that the Jews again had regained their homeland, all Jews were able to return to Israel, just as had been prophesied in the Bible.

As described in the Book of Revelation, there is an epic battle that will take place in Israel after it is reestablished — Armaggedon — in which it is prophesied that good will finally triumph over evil. However, in the process, two-thirds of the Jews in Israel die and the other third are converted to Christianity. Jesus then returns to Earth to rule for 1,000 years as king.
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http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Zionism/christianzionism.html

Christian Zionism is being used by some political factions in Israel to push their own goals such as settling the West Bank. However, the end result of CZ is a complete destruction of the Jewish people as foretold in the Book of Revelation.

Dangers of Christan Zionism:
Top Ten Reasons Christian Zionism "Impairs Israel's Interests"

1- Christian Zionism has become the most recognizable and widely broadcast face of Zionism around the world, and it projects a vision of Israel that competes with the worst propaganda coming from Islamic extremists.

2- Christian Zionists work to fulfill their own prophecy that the rest of the world will soon turn on Jews and Israel.

3- Christian Zionists are a major source of anti-Jewish conspiracy theory.

4- Christian Zionism promotes the belief that the destinies of nations and peoples are determined by their biblical genealogy.

5- Christian Zionists rewrite Jewish history, including the Holocaust, to fit their millennial narrative, just as the Religious Right is currently rewriting American history to fit its agenda.

6- Christian Zionists objectify Jews in narratives that closely parallel those of medieval anti-Semitism, in which Jews supernaturally brought about droughts and plagues.

7- Christian Zionists have presented a face of Zionism to the world that only the extreme right could love.

8- Christian Zionists are damaging Israel's relationship with other Christians.

9- Christian Zionists are using their "pro-Israel" support as a cover for large scale proselytizing of Jews.

10- The face of Christian Zionism is changing with the demographics of Christianity.

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/10/19/133852/88/Front_Page/Top_Ten_Reasons_Christian_Zionism_quot_Impairs_Israel_s_Interests_quot_

Israeli Ambassador Rejects American Jews, Embraces Hagee, Christian Zionists

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/10/16/152246/04

There is much more info about each point at the link.

The CZ people are mucking about in the Middle East and causing who knows what havoc. There are many people involved in this movement with different agendas along the way to Armageddon.

Our military shouldn't be anywhere near this effing mess. They are caught up in a maze of alliances that are impossible to untangle. Ultimately, I believe that every group is an ally of every other group and every group is an enemy of every other group on different levels.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 08:09 AM
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1. I have never understood the embrace of CZ's by some Israelis
The points listed above make clear that the CZ movement has at it's core, the destruction of Israel and the end of the Jewish faith. In the end it is hardly different than the most extreme Islamist vision of a future Israel.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 08:12 AM
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2. Beats me.
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 08:12 AM by Are_grits_groceries
They are using each other towards radically different endings. They are doubling down on their own faiths.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 08:34 AM
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3. doubling down - good way to put it!
This can't end well.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 01:15 PM
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7. I don't understand either
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 01:16 PM by Meshuga
Even if CZ's were not hostile to Judaism. Embracing these guys, given their plans explicit plans for Jews, is embarrassing and stupid.
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 11:54 PM
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8. They're downright creepy. I've spent time around them.
No good. No good at all.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 08:43 AM
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4. Hagee wants to finish what Hitler started.
That clown is on record saying he wants an Armageddon that wipes out all but 144,000 Jewish male virgins who will convert to Christianity after Armageddon. He is leading my people into the gas ovens and millions of fools are following him willingly. It's right out of that Jerry Lewis The Day The Clown Cried movie, with Joe LIEberman playing the Jerry Lewis role.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 09:01 AM
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5. Bibi likes them.
Bibi: Christian Zionists our top friends
In early April of last year, at a conference in Jerusalem of American evangelicals organized by Pastor John Hagee, Benjamin Netanyahu told the audience that Israel had no better friends than America’s Christian Zionists. “This is a friendship of the heart, a friendship of common roots, and a friendship of common civilization,” Netanyahu said.

Now, nearly a year later, with Netanyahu cobbling together a ruling coalition in Israel, three men of the US Christian Right, Pastor John Hagee, Michael D. Evans, and Joel C. Rosenberg—all of whom have had long-term associations with the prime minister-to-be—may feel like they’re about to be handed the keys to the Promised Land.

All three have had bestselling books related to the Middle East and apocalyptic theology, have raised significant amounts of money for Israeli charities (although how much of that money reaches the poor and needy has been questioned), lobbied heavily in support of policies advanced by Israel’s right wing, and opposed The Road Map to Peace. To one degree or another, they are all leaders in the broad movement known as Christian Zionism, now estimated to be about 40 million strong.

http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/religiousright/1204/jerusalem_countdown:_christian_zionists_and_the_new_israeli_government

Rosenberg runs "The Joshua Fund": http://www.joshuafund.net/
If you roam around that site, you'll see what they are up to.

They hate Jimmy Carter.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 01:01 PM
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6. Barbara Tuchman's "Bible and the Sword" has some interesting
background on Balfour and the roots of CZ.
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