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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 01:31 PM Original message |
PZ Myers loses patience with priests: Catholic geezers deny biology in Louisiana |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oh goody |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Maybe because we don't need eight more years |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Yep, and spot on, too |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. It's not about dogma. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Or, heben help us, THE FLY!!!!11!!! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Cat people. Better still--they can point out the best seafood restaurants. NT |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 02:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. I'll vote for cat people |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. My head was going more in this direction!!! |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. He shouldn't worry -- many of them are likely not celibate. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. You know what ? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. You'd probably make a better choice than they usually do. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. Go PZ!... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-21-09 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. It always surprises me how little light these threads shed. I don't know how competent a biologist |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:11 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. It was a Catholic lobbyist who came up with "mixing of human and animal cells in a petri dish" |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I haven't the foggiest what you're trying to say. I pointed out that Myers misrepresents |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Loar works for the Catholic church. They paid him to say the bill was about |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Myers wrote: 'SB 115 bans the "mixing of human and animal cells in a petri dish"' |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. So you're saying: don't trust the Catholics, they'll lie about what they're doing |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Not quite what I said, but if that's all you can get from it, I won't labor the point |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Perhaps it's natural to wonder, for most people. |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. He's an excellent biologist |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. So much heat, so little light. I can't find any evidence in this thread that anyone |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. No current research *in Louisiana* |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Yes, that would seem to be covered by the Louisiana ban. Since I don't much like The Telegraph |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. The objections to using human clones as commercial products, that I indicated in #41, |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 03:39 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. That's objecting to having patents on the processes, or even the life itself |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 03:51 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Greenpeace's concerns probably aren't primarily about abstract commercialization or patent issues |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 04:33 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Who knows? The article was about objecting to the patents, though |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 05:17 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. . |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 05:23 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Greenpeace is worried about engineering fully grown organisms |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
17. Friends of The Earth: Human-Animal Hybrid Ban Introduced in Congress (2007) |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Those are great progressives there. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. It seems to me such issues deserve a more thoughtful and factual discussion than this thread |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Friends of Earth have no better understanding of the results this ban would have than the pope does. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Perhaps you have not completely thought through your sneer: a model that allows one |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Are you and FoE suggesting that those studying host hopping |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. It can't happen: Anthrax Spores Escape a Lab At Ft. Detrick; Incident Believed Accidental |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. It can't happen: Plague Mice Escape Newark Lab |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. It can't happen: U.S. labs mishandling deadly germs |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. It can't happen: Shabby' lab blamed for disease |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. None of these studies are relevant to the animal-hybrid question, are they? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Mayo researchers observe genetic fusion of human, animal cells -may help explain origin of AIDS |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Another instance of hybrid-animal research that seems to improve human understanding. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. See my #31. I followed a consistent sequence of ideas here |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Let's recap a bit. The OP is an anti-Catholic rant whose author didn't even bother to read |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. You're talking apples and oranges, and you don't seem to know it. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. You persistently put your own words in my mouth. It's tiresome. Bye |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Bye? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. More of the same: not a link or cogent argument in sight. Does it escape you, for example, |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. You confirm that your defense of the legislation is based on fear. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Your post confirms once again that you put words in other people's mouths. Grow up. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Grow up? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Yeah, let's grow through this, step by step. You're acting like a juvenile jack-ass. The evidence: |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. You have extremely thin skin. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Do feel free to put me on Ignore |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I will just actively ignore you until I sense something more than a grouch behind your moniker. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
42. Why does any even listen to those morons...nt |
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