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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:25 PM
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Helen P let's loose again: And while I am on the subject of not being Christian...
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Jesus is the reason for the season unless you practice Islam, Hinduism, Chinese Traditionalism, Buddhism, Animist, Spiritism, Sikhism, Juche, Judaism, or any other of the two dozen or so major world religions. And let’s not forget about the citizens of the world who are non-religious because there are over 1 billion of them. In the United States today, over 75 million Americans are not Christian.

And while I am on the subject of not being Christian, it might interest some of you out there to know that God isn’t a Christian. Think about it. He’s God. Now I am going to stop there for a second because I am sure a few of my Christian friends just exploded.

(pause)

OK. For everyone still able to focus: This is the single most important issue facing the world. It is the cause of more war, poverty, disease, and just plain old hatred than anything else. Nothing else is even close except maybe Sarah Palin but she’s young so the jury is still out.

No matter what you believe, over four billion people believe differently than you do. Four billion. That is almost half of what George Bush and Dick Cheney spend on the war in Iraq each month. For those pro-war Republicans who don’t have an issue with that number, think of it this way. If you started counting right now, you would reach 4 billion in 126 years, 276 days, 1 hour, 6 minutes, and 12 seconds - give or take a few hours. And if you’re Joe the Plumber and that number is still just too big for your brain… well just imagine billions and billions of McDonald’s hamburgers. Trust me. It’s a lot.
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http://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com/

Heads are exploding still I'll bet.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:30 PM
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1. the traditional Christian god concept
gets me down, especially this time of year. But the author is correct--God is not the property of one religion or one sect. The concept of some sort of overriding force is one that is found in most faiths.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 08:49 PM
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14. all roads lead to the same door. :)
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:15 AM
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16. It is Yule.
Starts on the 21st. this year.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:32 PM
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2. Some among us believe that the return of the sun is the reason for the season
after the dark days of autumn.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 02:34 PM
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7. That's MY reason, anyway.
Knowing that the wheel has turned, and that we've begun the climb out of the dark lifts, and lightens my heart.

Leaving for work in the dark, getting home after dark, and doing barn chores morning and evening in the frozen dark demands a celebration for the return of the sun.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 04:41 PM
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12. Return of the sun?? You mean it will eventually return? I live in the Pacific NW. Been waiting for
a long time.
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 05:20 PM
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13. The season is the reason.
Happy Yule. :hi:
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 01:40 PM
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3. Or SHE'S God(dess)
Some of us believe in a female deity.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:13 AM
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15. Denying the Goddess
is halfway to atheism.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 02:25 PM
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4. Jesus is the reason for the season
Actually, the Earth's axis tilt of 22.5 degrees is the reason for the season.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 02:28 PM
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6. Who is that in your sig line, ZombieHorde?
I'm gathering it is either Mozart or the first European to ever become a zombie.

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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 02:53 PM
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8. The second guess is closer.
Edited on Sun Dec-14-08 02:53 PM by ZombieHorde
He is supposed to be Donatien Alphonse Francois de Sade. I pulled the picture off of his wiki page.

He was a French author and politician who lived around year 1800.

edit to add: He was the first 'new atheist'.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:19 PM
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10. Oh, Marquis de Sade. I should have figured that out.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 04:38 PM
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11. Not as catchy, sorry. nm
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 02:45 PM
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17. The truth is not always as appealing to some as lies. Oh well.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 06:09 PM
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19. Damn the truth. I can't handle the truth. Stop telling me the damn truth.
oh well, there is always alcohol.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 02:27 PM
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5. I ask my freshmen classes what percentage of the world's population is considered to be practicing
some form of Christianity and the answers I get are typically around 50-80%. Every once in a while someone says 20-25%, which is the most-likely correct answer.

Of course, I don't teach at Yale and these are not theology department classes.

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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:06 PM
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9. To me it's a reason to keep spoiling my three grand daughters! : )
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 02:56 PM
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18. Furthermore
not all Christians celebrate "Christmas". I lean toward the version of history that explains how Christmas was purposefully taken from a drunken rowdy holiday to a commercialized version of massive proportion. It's all about making a buck and keeping civil peace.

Plus TPTB love it when people get all sentimental. It confuses what little logic they may have.
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