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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:45 PM
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Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons
By Chaz Muth
Catholic News Service

WASHINGTON (CNS) -- In an effort to block posthumous rebaptisms by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Catholic dioceses throughout the world have been directed by the Vatican not to give information in parish registers to the Mormons' Genealogical Society of Utah.

An April 5 letter from the Vatican Congregation for Clergy, obtained by Catholic News Service in late April, asks episcopal conferences to direct all bishops to keep the Latter-day Saints from microfilming and digitizing information contained in those registers.

The order came in light of "grave reservations" expressed in a Jan. 29 letter from the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the clergy congregation's letter said.

Father James Massa, executive director of the U.S. bishops' Secretariat of Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs, said the step was taken to prevent the Latter-day Saints from using records -- such as baptismal documentation -- to posthumously baptize by proxy the ancestors of church members.


http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802443.htm

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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:49 PM
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1. Why does anyone give these lunatics credence?
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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uberllama42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:56 PM
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16. Which lunatics?
LDS or the Vatican?
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:32 PM
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17. both, either, but the LDS has my vote.......
posthumously baptizing people so that they can enter heaven??? Oy......
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:51 PM
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2. does anybody take these post-death baptisms seriously? I mean, anybody other than lds?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:52 PM
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3. Obviously
the Vatican does!

:rofl:


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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:54 PM
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4. My myth, your myth, their myth.........
let's fight over who is right. Even if there is no such thing as God except between the ears of every human. What on earth?
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:59 PM
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5. That's just sick
Why can't the Mormons leave the dead buried in the ground?

I about puked when I heard they did a baptism for the dead for Anne Frank.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:08 PM
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6. actually, I think their marriages are even more fun than the baptisms.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:38 PM
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7. Polygamous ones certainly pukeworthy
Edited on Wed May-07-08 03:38 PM by Hydra
Their normal ones are boring and involve a large number of kids they can't afford.

Bad habits all around.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 12:49 PM
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9. They can baptize me when I'm dead
I won't give a shit--because I'm dead.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 12:54 PM
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10. You sure about that?
I believe in reincarnation, but I don't want some "holy person" grubbing my soul while I'm on life vacation.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:03 PM
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11. Yep, I'm sure.
I'll sell ya my soul for $5 if you want an extra.

If somebody wants to "baptize" wormfood, knock yourself out.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:23 PM
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12. You're lucky I already have one of my own
Cuz $5 is cheap- no matter what the quality.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:39 PM
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13. It was a cheap reference
to a Simpson's episode.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:42 PM
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14. I do recall young Bart selling to Millhouse
I didn't remember that it was for $5. 2 points!
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:51 PM
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15. I show that episode
every year when I teach "The Devil and Tom Walker" in American Lit and then the students write a comparison of early and modern depictions of evil. I've seen it way too many times. He buys a package of growing dinosaur sponges with the money.
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:53 PM
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8. In another era, not that terribly long ago,


They’d be slaughtering each other by the 100’s of 1000’s over this.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:17 PM
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18. Why not just give it to them? This shit makes no sense.
Edited on Thu May-08-08 06:20 PM by Evoman
If you think the dead guy is in heaven, and some dumbass mormon baptizes him, so what? God will send him into hell? Give him his own planet instead of having to share it with other catholics? Who the fuck cares if they baptize a dead person. If the person is in purgatory, will this unauthorized baptism give them an extra 5 years in the Purg?

Honestly, I can't even conceive of something stupider than religion. I can't believe I share a planet with these morons.
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 01:54 AM
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19. Doesn't matter if a family member is looking for an ancestor's records they have access. Just don't
say you're a f*cking mormon wanting to so call baptized your ancestors to get them into your personal Kingdom in Heaven where you have all the power and glory. Because, when you have the most ancestors the greater your kingdom. Yes it's all weird. Ask them to explain. Idiot religion founded in the U.S. by idiots. And, Joseph Smith got what God had designed for him according to his Providence - Death. And now their teachings according to their incest practices and abuse of children are being revealed.
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