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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:41 AM
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Ken Ham (Answers in Gensis) KNOWS what caused the VT shooting.
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 10:43 AM by genie_weenie
So, it’s not God’s fault that there is death and violence in the world—it’s humanity’s fault, because we rebelled against our Creator.

We live in an era when public high schools and colleges have all but banned God from science classes. In these classrooms, students are taught that the whole universe, including plants and animals—and humans—arose by natural processes. Naturalism (in essence, atheism) has become the religion of the day and has become the foundation of the education system (and Western culture as a whole). The more such a philosophy permeates the culture, the more we would expect to see a sense of purposelessness and hopelessness that pervades people’s thinking. In fact, the more a culture allows the killing of the unborn, the more we will see people treating life in general as “cheap.”

I’m not at all saying that the person who committed these murders at Virginia Tech was driven by a belief in millions of years or evolution. I don’t know why this person did what he did, except the obvious: that it was a result of sin.


<more> http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2007/04/16/how-could-loving-god

Sin is such a cheap canard. Believers have been using it for centuries to explain away the existence of evil in the world, which is a disproof of god. Sin (as theorized by Judeo-Christian-Islamic) thinkers does not exist. There was not a time on the earth, when prior to the Fall of Man that animals did not eat meat, humans lived forever, iron did not rust. Sin is a flawed concept. If you believe that Sin is responsible for the following events, you seriously need to check your premises and re-evaluate your life: Tsunami kills a quarter million, a hurricane destroys New Orleans, a man kills 32 at VT.

Sin is a load of bollocks.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:57 AM
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1. Between the sin guys
And the "arm everyone" guys, the real problem gets drowned out.

It is predictable that, within hours of the shooting, I had stuff in my inbox promoting both points of view. Does anyone THINK anymore? How the hell can this stuff get fixed if there is no real thought going on about it?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 11:05 AM
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2. That's right, it's the fault of abortions, and thus the fault of atheist liberals.
It has nothing to do with a lack of hope, with a huge group of Americans who are going bankrupt, who have nothing, who are penniless, homeless, hungry, and victims of the system.

Nope, it's totally because of abortions and evolution.

That's where hopelessness comes from - abortion and and a belief in evolution. Not from hunger, sickness, or homelessness.

Nope, no one in America is suffering from lack of material wealth. It's all suffering from secular liberal humanists who want us to make abortion mandatory and who have taken God (at least, the American rightwing Christian fundamentalist God) off the walls of our schools.

Jackasses.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 01:06 PM
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3. He sounds pleased.
Nihilistic totalitarian bastards like him love it when stuff like this happens, because they can try to use it to confirm both their theory that life is meaningless if there is no belief in gods, and their theory that the country would be better off if they just bowed before him and did whatever he said.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 01:28 PM
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4. Agreed. (n/t)
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:05 PM
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5. What a load of shit.
Pardon the strong language, but whenever I read things like this in the wake of tragedy I can't help but get infuriated. Implicit in the assertion that the reason so many people had to die is because we are rebelling against an absentee father figure is the notion that those who died in the bloodbaths and suffered through the torment got what they deserved and nothing turns me off to Christianity more than that.
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