|
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend Bookmark this thread |
This topic is archived. |
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Religion/Theology |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 09:33 AM Original message |
Feb 17--Giordano Bruno--A Day to Remember |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. The Inquisition is alive and well |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PADemD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
2. Have you ever read |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
3. K&R, lest we forget. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. The Folly of Giordano Bruno |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I'm not taking the bait. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 11:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Yeah, "historical matters should be addressed accurately" is real flame-bait |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Couple questions. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Three strikes, and he's out. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I of course am no longer astonished to see you put words in other peoples' mouths |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. What exactly was your point in pissing on the thread, then? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. If the case deserves attention, then let us give it thoughtful attention |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. The man was executed for disagreeing with the Catholic Church. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. 1. I hope we completely agree regarding the immorality of burning people alive |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Is there some motive |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Is there any way to answer such a vague and yet loaded question? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 12:37 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Yes there is |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 12:53 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Here are two other posts where I have already addressed my motives |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. A few days ago |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Or it could just be |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Take a look at the OP |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 12:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Well, you convinced me |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. I defended nothing of the sort -- and you that perfectly well |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 01:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Brilliant! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. No -- I post an astronomer talking about Bruno's role in the history of astronomy |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. That's kind of misleading. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Consider not putting words in other peoples' mouths: I never said "silly" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Yeah, you're right |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. In fact, none of THOSE claims came from me either, though I suppose |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I was not speaking of you |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 05:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I can't work out why you bothered posting this |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. The sigline in the OP reads in part "Giordano Bruno is burned at the stake for having the gall to .. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Nailed it. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. And no-one is saying "how dare they execute someone for being right" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. But of course there are much more recent and more striking examples of THAT: |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. And everyone knows |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. If you wish to make that sort of historical argument in good faith |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
61. Ah, now your motive becomes clear. You almost had me fooled, too. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. No, I was responding to GM's claim in the post immediately prior: |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. Bruno also, apparently, believed in reincarnation |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-17-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
5. Here's the Vatican library webpage on the only surviving document |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 08:29 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Reading the entire document |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I will say again that the trial of Bruno lasted seven years, that it must |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Your last paragraph |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Actually is not even that |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. The SETI editorial I posted above noters that the book by Copernicus did not land on the index |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Good point |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-18-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. I have no idea what you are trying to ask here, since I think I just addressed that question |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 04:56 AM Response to Original message |
42. Its monday (4 am) and I haven't posted all weekend.. So I will raise my glass...for Bruno. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-19-07 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
47. Here (in English) is Bruno's "La Cena de le Ceneri," including |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. *sigh* n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I will *sigh* as well... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Does any of the stuff |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. It has nothing to do with "siding" with him or not. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Nobody here |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. It's not about whether it's correct or not. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Let's see if I can make this clear. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Ok. Fine by me. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. That is perfectly fine with me. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I care because I care... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. That reminds me of the Republican argument |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. You think I'm blaming him? I don't mean to... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Bruno was a man of his time. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:36 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Modern science, by which one means a reliance upon experiment |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:52 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. So then he was just a non-scientist who was killed by the church. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:41 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Or perhaps he was burned simply because some authoritarians ... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #62 |
68. That is just nasty. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. No, whats nasty is taking a "shitty dump" on somebody elses thread. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Threads are holy things, to you? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Yes, they are sacred...thats why I use delicate words like shit and fuck. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Different people have different definitions of 'profane'... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I said please. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Consider this |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Where did I say he is only a substandard astronomer? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Well, I can play that game too. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. How would that be unkind? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. The topic of this thread |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Do you realize, if not for those pointing out uncomfortable truths... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. That's like saying |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. *sigh* |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. This thread meant to pay tribute |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. You think I was rude... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. You have had many opportunities |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Blame? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. You accused me |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Givng my opinion |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. And now you accuse me again |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. I said that *what you said* was childish. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. You have set yourself up as the ultimate arbiter |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. Yes, I would rather it would have sunk |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. I'm glad you feel better... n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #76 |
94. Hey, there are some of us who haven't posted on this thread |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-20-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. In case you are bored, |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
92. I want to apologize for being disruptive. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-22-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Are you "declaring" that or just "saying" that? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) | Thu May 02nd 2024, 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
Advertisements [?] |
Top |
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Religion/Theology |
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators
Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.
Home | Discussion Forums | Journals | Store | Donate
About DU | Contact Us | Privacy Policy
Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.
© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC