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Wolf Frankula Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:18 AM
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Something I do during TV Cop Shows
My wife loves TV cop shows, I can't stand most of them so I do this. I keep a count of the felonies committed by the cops on the show. Usually for every felony committed by the crooks, there are five by the cops.

Wolf
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:24 AM
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:39 AM
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2. I noticed that also.
Edited on Mon May-23-11 01:06 AM by RandomThoughts
Many years ago I was laughing at cop wannabees, basically they thought they were cops, and that is most of the dishonest ones.

But I was laughing at them, becuase what ever they heard about me was untrue and ridiculous. So what did they do, smear and lie, becuase they figured they were able to 'know' who was guilty or innocent by there special thought powers and abilities.

I defended due process by saying I would not be mean to someone, that by society laws, had paid a debt, and the vigilante that wanted me to be mean to some guy I hardly knew, used to be that guys landlord and some had said he had burned down the guy stuff that he wanted me to be mean to for insurance money. So he also did not have credibility.

Then he says I should be mean to him, the guy was a cripple, that probably went to jail when innocent, and lost his house and family, and those wannabees started lying about me, becuase I wouldn't be mean to him, and becuase I bought him a soft drink instead of being mean.

They were lying about me. Me! They tried to attack me! and smeared me! For being nice to someone. And I hadn't done anything wrong. That is when I went to war, and that is not hurting anyone, when you defend the ideas of due process, and you see the people that are suppose to enforce that don't care about any of that, it is disturbing, and has to be corrected.

From that I tracked back on them, and found that was the entire structure of much of our country. Two tier justice and intimidation and smear not justice.

I think many 'police' are good people, that try to do right, but when they go after innocent people for there own gain, that can not be tolerated, and they can not have a badge.


Keyser Soze (The Story)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgkBpWc8ngI


Note, the story shows the Noun he used is wrong. As does his last statement.



Billy Joel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PThPI1kLGU8


And I am due beer and travel money, and many experiences.


Stephen King's: The Stand | Calling All Angels
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_FNAhBeBZM



And to those that smeared me by calling me racist only a few years ago, the guy I was defending due process for, was not Caucasian. And even when they told me they would smear me, I was still not mean to him. So I got an issue with you also.
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 02:49 AM
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3. There's a whole spectrum of criminals who think they're part of law enforcement.
The most dangerous by far are those who are doing "secret work" because the "stakes in this case are too high for normal law enforcement". Basically you get these tools who have been shown some illegally gathered intelligence to gain their trust and get them working for "uncle Sam". They are told normal channels will deny their work, its top secret. Then they are sent off to collect "intelligence" on the target. They are fed info to lead credibility to the justifications for their crimes. (I remember watching one activist's house: one guy would come and plant documents in her garbage, another guy was sent to find them, to learn about her "crimes")

What these tools don't know is that they are actually working for mafia groups, shady foreign human trafficking organizations and the like. They don't understand that there is no easier way to get control of people then to make them privy to "special information" which can't be shared because its "secret"...It plays on the ego, the idea that people don't know what you do because you're special, (a tactic long used by cults) when the fact is that public peer review would reveal to them they were being lied to and manipulated.

Its a dirty world out there. :(
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 04:25 AM
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5. Yea it is a trap.
Many religious people fall for that also. "the secret doctrine" can be anything you think it is. Anyone can tell you something then tell you that is the secret doctrine.

It is one of the contradictions in some texts.

Light and truth does not need secrecy, and the word Occult, means secrecy.

So really I understand how much of that happens, I have been told that something is the secret doctrine so many times. And even posted many of them, although I don't post the soul crushing doctrines, and only post the simpler ones that many run into, and post the ways out of them.

But there are some doctrines that can try to really hurt a person if they can't find the way out of them. They all have the same component, get someone to believe they have no say in anything and existence is despair, so that you will follow orders only.

Secret agencies are not far off that, they always have the excuse of need to know, that is actually to hide what people would not think acceptable. And as you say the ego boost people get from feeling that makes them important.


The other bad effect is some give people some idea of authority when they say they are part of some group, then believe lies they say, that is a component of power, as you mention. Someone letting you in on the secret 'plot' to get a 'bad person' when the person is really being smeared. They used that on me also.

:shrug:

And it is not all organized crime, although that is one of the overlapping forms of governance in society. There are many governance, crime groups are one of the forms of governance in society. There are also many other types of groups that form around ideologies or thoughts on how society operates.

There are many factions that have a form of governance in what people choose to do, public, private, ideological, fraternal, many ways people group together and try to help each other against other factions, and against ideas of equal justice.

I don't play that game.
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 03:18 PM
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8. Occult
You say the word means secret, I say it means hidden, which is a few inches off from secret. The secret component is there for sure. But you do have the hidden component as well, which is to say an "occultist" may be a person who is trying to understand hidden truths about the universe, and such a person shouldn't be bashed more than any spiritualist.

But light and truth doesn't need secrecy, that's the really the main point. The guy looking for hidden truths can publish openly what he finds, whereas the guy who has to "initiate" somebody to the mysteries through grades is creating a control structure. Its the fact that these cultish control structures are spread so wide through our society, even to secular areas that's worth thinking about.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 04:35 AM
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6. This post belongs in this thread.
Edited on Mon May-23-11 05:31 AM by RandomThoughts
Note on 'running away'

Function not data. Saying I wont join some organization, is becuase they require you to believe as they do to be part of it. So going further down the road is not leaving that organization, or running away, but not giving in to some demand that is an 'unjust deal'

I say that becuase some think not being part of what they think is best is running away from them, it can also be standing in front of them.

Or I would not want Wolf Blitzer explaining to me how it works, like he did to Aston Cusher in that one clip. Although his expression was funny.


I really like BioShock's Star Wars The New Republic's explanation of the Voss. Where they are not interested in how everyone else explains the force, you know why that is. Because they know nobody can know for sure. And someone trying to explain it to you exactly how it all works, is pretty funny. It can expand thought on the topic, but it is a choice what you believe, not a knowing for sure.

And in the same way, I wouldn't want someone to believe something becuase I say it, but to think and feel on what they think is best.

So you have some idea, share it, but don't say what you know it to be when you can't know for sure.

Part of the Blind Leading the Blind, and in this favorite video. A Jedi must learn to fight blind, and part of that is knowing they to are blind.

Brothers in Arms - Dire Straits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5JkHBC5lDs


Stephen King's: The Stand | Calling All Angels
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_FNAhBeBZM
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 03:10 PM
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7. Its okay to be sure when you're not sure IMHO.
I'm just saying that if you have an inkling, you can put it out there confidently. Let people learn skepticism, its healthy. Things move fastest when people fearlessly put out their concept of the truth.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 02:54 AM
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4. There are a couple that I like mostly because of the actors
but, you are completely correct in your estimate of the "end justifies the means" methods portrayed on TV cop shows. I mostly just avoid them because I simply cannot take the endless commercials interrupted by brief moments of programing.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:04 PM
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9. Just like real life!
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