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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 08:54 AM
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Return of the Jedi – the sad ending




from the Guardian UK:



The final scenes of Return Of The Jedi are imprinted on the consciousness of millions of Star Wars fans. After bidding farewell to his dead father in an emotional cremation sequence, Luke Skywalker rushes off to an Ewok party, where everybody hugs and dances and some Ewoks play the bongos. The end.

But it could have all been so different. Speaking before this weekend's Star Wars Celebration V conference in Florida, producer Gary Kurtz has revealed that if it wasn't for the wild popularity of Star Wars merchandise, Return Of The Jedi would have had a much bleaker ending. "The original idea was that they would recover Han Solo in the early part of the story and that he would then die in the middle part of the film in a raid on an Imperial base," Kurtz told the LA Times.

"George then decided he didn't want any of the principals killed. By that time there were really big toy sales and that was a reason." What's more, the film would have shown Princess Leia struggling to cope with her new-found responsibilities, and would have ended with Luke Skywalker walking off into the distance as an embittered, Clint Eastwood-style loner.

In the end, though, George Lucas opted for the happy Ewok bongo version. Maybe he was right to avoid such a depressing conclusion – for all anyone knows, Star Wars might not have become the fiercely beloved series that it is today by ending on such an outright bummer. Then again, maybe he was wrong. After all, The Empire Strikes Back is widely regarded as the best Star Wars film, and the fact that it ended in the most downbeat fashion imaginable can't be a coincidence. Maybe wrapping up the whole trilogy in a blanket of death and misery would have further enhanced the franchise.

It's certainly braver to risk alienating your audience with a bleak ending, but it's a risk that pays off time and time again. Hilary Swank probably wouldn't have won that Oscar if her character in Million Dollar Baby fully recovered in the final scene. David Fincher would currently be out of work if, during the final scene of Seven, Brad Pitt opened the box to discover a fresh batch of delicious fairy cakes that Kevin Spacey had baked for him by way of an apology. Don't Look Now would have been a gigantic flop if Donald Sutherland, having run himself ragged across Venice looking for his daughter, had caught up with the stabby dwarf, shouted "Kiss me, you fool", and taken her on a lovely all-expenses trip around the Mediterranean.

Then again, not every film should have a sad ending. Imagine if Field Of Dreams ended with Kevin Costner sitting in an empty baseball field for a week, realising that nobody was actually going to turn up, and killing himself. Or if Tim Robbins got stuck in the sewage pipe during his escape from Shawshank and ended up suffocating in human effluent. Or if Sleepless in Seattle ended with Meg Ryan being graphically mauled to death by an escaped tiger.

The mythical glum finale of Return of The Jedi will have to remain a subject for countless pub conversations and nothing else. But what do you think? Did you like how it ended, or would you have enjoyed a few more flies in the ointment?


http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2010/aug/13/return-jedi-alternative-film-endings


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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 09:03 AM
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1. That Sleepless in Seattle ending sounds like an improvement
Seriously, though, I think the sad ROTJ ending would have worked if it had set up the final trilogy. But since Lucas has said that he's not going to do episodes 7-9, I think it would have been oddly unsatisfying.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 09:04 AM
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2. "That Sleepless in Seattle ending sounds like an improvement"
:) Agreed.


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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 09:09 AM
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3. George Lucas saved up his bloodlust for the newer trilogy.
And for some reason, an abundance of weepy nineteenth century romance without the charm.

Then there was the directing of the actors to be cardboard cutouts instead of charming dynamic characters, like we had in the first trilogy.

But I digress...

Yub nub, eee chop yub nub,
Toe meet toe peachy keen, g'noop duck fling, oh ah.
Yah wah, eee chop yah wah,
Toe meet toe peachy keen, g'noop duck fling, oh ah...

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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 09:11 AM
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4. Yep. And two disastrous Anakins....
nt


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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-10 09:23 AM
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5. I don't think the Clint Eastwood characters are loners,
Edited on Sat Aug-14-10 09:28 AM by RandomThoughts
Why would that post mention them if they were alone? Nor would I think him bitter about a mention in that post, even if phrased in a way to have many meanings. Although you would have to ask Clint about that.

Anyone think they are trying to say two things at once?


Why Worry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_03uXQiz6eY


Interesting comment on field of dreams, people might not show up, that is their choice, but the metaphorical baseball players do, and that is their choice also.


I wonder what decision is the best of choices?

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