Kids to leave goodbye notes for their Dad...(thread for MJ haters to AVOID...)

[Triana]

The children - Prince Michael, 12, Paris, 11, and Blanket, seven - have written "Daddy we love you, we miss you" on notes which will be placed in his coffin, alongside the singer's trademark single white glove.

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Marlon said: "I don't think anyone tried to kill Michael on purpose but something went wrong, something happened and, yes, some of my family do think it's murder.

"He had too many 'yes' men around him. With a bunch of 'yes' people around him there was no doubt he was headed for destruction. I'm talking about the doctors who were around him, the people he had working for him. It's sad to say but these doctors would do anything for the money."

Even though Jackson was slowly losing his battle against prescription drug addiction, he tried to shield it from his relatives, Marlon revealed.

He said: "Michael was a very private person. He didn't like people to pry into that.

"At one point there was concern about the prescriptions, about his painkillers and whether he was taking too much, but he seemed to have everything under control.

"Michael was trying to escape from what he had created. He put himself in a box and the only way he could escape from it was to come up with different disguises to experience what others take for granted in life - going to the store, walking down the street. The fame became a monster and he was pretty much boxed in a corner because everybody wanted a piece of him."


HE WAS A GREAT DAD

"At the beginning all that stuff is great but then at the end... Everybody was judging him - and all the ridicule that went with it."

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The identity of the surrogate mum who gave birth to Blanket has never been revealed. But Marlon said: "I don't care where those kids come from - Michael was their daddy. He raised them from birth.

"Anyone can have a kid, anyone can be a father. But it takes something special to be a daddy."

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HE LOVED PRACTICAL JOKES

"On that last day he was reminiscing about how we once wet rolls of toilet tissue and threw them out of hotel windows. And how we filled up trash cans with water and threw the water down on to the street. We were pranksters, the pair of us.

"I just remember the last thing we said to each other was, 'I love you', and his last line was always, 'I love you more'. And that was the last thing he said to me."


(NOTE from OP: Michael often said "I love you more" to his fans too - it was a very endearing phrase we loved to hear from him...)


Growing up in extreme poverty in the city of Gary, Indiana, Michael and Marlon lived in a two-bedroom house his parents bought for £500.

Marlon, who was just 17 months older than Michael, became his closest friend. The two little boys shared a bed.

"Michael and I slept in the same bed in a triple bunk," he said. "Jermaine and Tito shared another bed and Jackie had the third bed to himself because Randy was just a baby.


(NOTE from OP: THIS IS WHY - and I've said this before - Michael never thought it odd that boys/men would share a bed. HE WAS RAISED THAT WAY because they were 8-9 kids in a small house in Gary. Micheal thought nothing unusual of it - though the media persecuted him for it - particularly after Martin Bashir's hit piece on him - and when the extortionists made their claims so they could get at his money. The media saw this as a golden opportunity to garner record numbers of viewers with the "scandal" and to sell lots of tabloid magazines - and the extortionists saw this as a golden opportunity to bring down a very successful black man who was "different" (how DARE him be so successful and black and so "different") and to get some of that nice moolah off of Jackson. All in all, the mediawhores such as Bashir launched their careers off of it and it kept media outlets in lots of dough for months/years. The one innocent in all of it - Michael.


"Michael and I used to look out of the window across the road across the field and say to each car that came along, 'When I grow up I want to have that car'.

"That was as far as his ambition went. Wanting to be a superstar never really dawned on us."

Michael loathed their dad Joe, accusing him of beating him as a child, which Joe, who lives apart from Katherine, has always denied.

But Marlon insisted: "My father beat us a lot of times. I felt resentful.

"That sort of discipline wasn't abnormal in our neighbourhood but it doesn't mean it was right."

And Marlon believes the beatings may have fatally damaged Michael's self-esteem and ability to fend for himself.


BROTHERS PLAN TRIBUTE SONG

"It does a couple of things to you - it forms you into this person who is not able to confront people when they're not satisfied with things.

"It also makes people able to take advantage of you. I found a lot of my siblings were that way."


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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/08/30/the-kids-will-put-goodbye-daddy-notes-in-his-coffin-115875-21634373/

[Skittles]

1. aw

:cry:

f*** all the Michael haters - I think he was a very damaged guy with a big heart

[Triana]

11. "damaged guy with a big heart"

definitely.

I know that damage - I've suffered some of it myself - I know how it affects people in life (abusive upbringing). Low self-esteem and the lot of it. He had it - and all the ridicule he got from the media just made it worse. It's no wonder he secluded himself in "Neverland" - can't blame him, really. Then, of course, he was ridiculed for that, too. The man was damned if he did and damned if he didn't - as far as the media was concerned - because they were going to profit from tearing him down no matter what he did or did not do.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

2. This is a tradition in my family,

and I know a lot of people who do the same thing. It's nice, sending letters with the body into the ground, just messages from the living to the dead. We put books, photographs, CDs, special items in with the corpse. And the kids love the idea.

We also put notes, photos, newspapers into foundations, all carefully wrapped in heavy-duty plastic. Someday, who knows who might find them?

It's a fun tradition, and very common. Those poor kids, still having to go through a funeral. This whole thing has been awful, just awful. It'll be good to have it over, so that they can focus on their own little lives...................................

[Triana]

13. I think about those kids....if they ever read the garbage that the media

has put out about their dad during his life and after his death (most of it UNTRUE as anything else the media puts out there these days), they'd be sick. I'm glad the family is keeping them off the internet and away from teevee (unsupervised, at least) - they do NOT need to see the hateful lies - at least not right now. This is something (the kids) I suspect the media either doesn't think about or doesn't care about or both (they only want profits from mag sales, lots of web clicks and viewers). They DO NOT deserve that.

I've heard of this tradition of buring notes, letters, photos and personal items with the decedent too - I think it's pretty common. We did this when my step-dad died.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

14. Those poor kids know what their fathe was -

they lived with a drug addict. With a face that was coming apart, and who never had a normal relationship with a woman in his life. What kind of life do you think he provided for those poor little store-bought children?

Those kids are lucky to have been delivered away from their junkie "father." He was worthless as a parent, but could pay people to take care of those kids. I feel very sorry for them - living with a drug addict during their formative years is a bad thing. Being dragged from country to country, not allowed to go out and play like normal kids, not allowed to attend school, live normal lives - that's no way to raise kids, and it's not how you take care of children you love.

It's how you manipulate possessions you wanted. He wanted to be a child, so he bought some, and thought, somehow, that having them would make him a child again. Crazy, he was nothing but twisted.

Now, living with the Jackson family, as dysfunctional a group as you can imagine, won't be much better, but Mother Katharine will figure out how to keep her little money machines pumping out the bucks for her.

All in all, it's tragic from every angle.........................

[Triana]

15. From all accounts I've heard/read - MJ was a great father and the kids..

...are exemplary. It seems they had a fine life with their Dad and he took care of them himself much of the time - fed them, bathed them, etc. There are photos all over the bleedin place and first-hand accounts of it - from people who spent time around them and the photos speak for themselves. They played with kids of MJ's friends, Al Malnik's kids etc. (again - photos abound of those times on the internet) - so they did play with other kids - I've seen numerous photos of that - quite normal children playing with other children.

Many people home-school their kids - successfully so - and all accounts are that MJ's kids are very intelligent and know at least two languages. In Michael's case, I don't see that he had any choice, considering who he was. The kids would likely have been harangued, harassed & pestered at best, and/or bullied and abducted at worst had they gone to a public (or maybe even a "private") school. I can fully understand MJ being concerned about that and therefore home-schooling them. He wanted them to be safe and to not have to deal with any possible harm that might come to them due to the negative 'stigma' that the media built around him. He wanted to protect them from that. That doesn't make him a bad father, IMO.

Many people adopt, use artificial insemination, fertility treatments, and surrogates to have children if they have trouble - or don't want to pass on traits - such as vitiligo - to their offspring. It's somehow different / terrible bad / weird when Jackson does it? Huh. Interesting the level of negativity it gets when Jackson does it, as opposed to Madonna or anyone else.

I think they likely need that large family, aunts, uncles, and cousins - and their grandmother who is the rock of the family, for support right now. It was Michael's wish that she care for them and I certainly think herself and the other aunts/uncles are a better choice than - Joe - for instance.

You and I obviously have very different takes on these kids and their upbringing - which is fine. Just - I respectfully disagree with you. :)

[Tangerine LaBamba]

16. I hope all that you say will be proven true -

but having a parent - and the only parent - be as impaired as he was leaves terrible scars on children. Ask any child of a drug addict, an alcoholic, any kind of habitual abuser.

He wasn't fit to be a parent, so I hope those kids get all the help they need, that they're not exploited by the Jackson family, which, sadly, doesn't seem to know how to do anything else..........................

[xultar]

3. Great post. Miss u mj. Rest in peace.

Mj was my first crush.

[Triana]

10. Awww. Me too, actually. The voice got me first....

..but he was a cutie too! <3

[Deja Q]

4. Given the controversy and stigma MJ had to deal with, I'd say it might be murder too.

I don't know enough of his doctor and political or personal beliefs -- and even then, having a specific belief does not mean an act of "vigilante wannabe justice" will follow.

If nothing else, I just hope Michael's death was painless. He had enough pain in his life. He was any number of things in life, but "liar" wasn't one of them. (especially when it was revealed his skin condition was for real, all doubt I had, for everything else he said about any issue, vanished.)

[Triana]

9. Thanks Deja - I agree with everything you wrote.

Especially the part about hoping it was painless. The man was no liar, certainly. I'd been looking at his photos - younger and older - and besides his nose, I don't believe he had (and he stated on numerous occasions) any other plastic surgeries other than on his nose. His face shape never changed. He did lose weight later in life and his face became thinner and more sunken - but that's age/weight loss, not plastic surgery.

I don't think he lied about these things.

[Buzz Clik]

5. He really named a child Blanket?

I thought it was dumb joke from South Park.

[AlexinVA]

6. It was a nickname...

which he explained in the Bashir documentary. The kid's legal name is Prince Michael Jackson II. Apparently, Michael's grandfather and great grandfather were named Prince.

[Buzz Clik]

7. So he's got two kids named Prince Michael -- I and II.

And Prince Michael II was nicknamed Blanket.

Not unlike George Foreman naming all of his sons George.

[Catherine Vincent]

8. I don't believe a lot of what is printed in this story

The mirror is a tabloid in case you didn't know.

[Triana]

12. Tabloids rarely print anything positive

so I thought this exceptional - and I've seen the same story from "mainstream" outlets since. So, I posted it. Also, I believe Marlon is sincere, as is Jermaine.