Kerry's video is amazing

[RaulVB]

Please watch it. It was mentioned in a different tread but his language is extremely clear and direct. Nothing "hidden" there. He is telling us to be ready!

Link below:

http://www.johnkerry.com/video/console.php?video=111904...

[Patsy Stone]

1. Sometimes I watch it

just to hear his voice. I miss him on my TeeVee everyday. :)

[VivaKerry]

2. Which video? the one dated nov 1, 2004????

Surely you are referring to a post-election video, right????

[Syrinx]

3. on dialup, is this the one he sent out in email

With the phrase "Regardless of the outcome...?"

[RaulVB]

5. Yes, that one (n/t)

[jadedcherub]

4. You worry me. (n/t)

[imenja]

6. don't believe it

I can't get the video to open, but if it's about the recount, don't believe it. A reliable source told me that the Kerry campaign has instructed its lawyers to destroy incident reports of voting problems from the election. I'm still in shock from hearing that.

[AmyCrat]

7. can't see video either n/t

[Patsy Stone]

14. It's the old one -- here. I imagine we're just reminiscing...

http://www.johnkerry.com/

and it feels so good

[RaulVB]

8. You better name that "reliable source"

BS, let me tell you!

[imenja]

12. OK

it was Andy from Black Box voting. The one who works with Bev Harris. He said various lawyers had called them and told them they had received such instructions from the campaign. Andy didn't tell me not to repeat it, so I suppose it's okay to do so.

[RevCheesehead]

13. Well, BBV had damned well verify that with the Kerry Campaign!

Who knows what Rovian tricks are already in play?

[zann725]

27. My thoughts exactly! If Repugs in Warren Co. pretended to be Homeland Sec

...they could certainly pretend to be Kerry attorneys, right?
If so, VERY smart of them to ask for the docs destroyed!

[RaulVB]

16. Sorry, DON'T BELIEVE THEM!

They have a very developed sense of "drama" there at BBV, and I tell you that even if I gave them money for their activities...(I actually did).

[slutticus]

18. Hmmm..well...

...Andy's always said that he didn't trust either side...

[Helga Scow Stern]

20. It doesn't matter what lawyers said what...it has nothing to do w/ Kerry.

That is simply ridiculous.

[imenja]

23. I hope you're right

All I know is that is what the man told me. Whether it's true or not, I can't say, but I do know the campaign has completely disbanded here in FL (they had done so by Nov 4). One Kerry lawyer called me about a voting problem I had reported and told me that the campaign wasn't pursuing the matter further. He did not tell me to destroy the info. I contacted a local state Rep. twice about the issue, and after first telling me they planned to wage law suits, she has since not responded to my inquiries.
I fear they might be rolling over--like Nixon did in 1960. Kerry thinks he can run again in 2008. He'll discover he won't win the nomination. Democrats don't forgive losing candidates.

[juajen]

34. This democrat can forgive a losing candidate, but

not if he allows fraud to go unchallenged. I believe this is not from Kerry, but a disinformation campaign to shut us down. AFAIC, won't happen.

[angrydemocrat]

35. I respectfully disagree with you on the part Kerry

thinks he can run again in 2008 and that democrats don't forgive losing canidates. The reason I disagree with you is because there are thousands on top of thousounds of people right now even if this election doesn't get overturned that would work and support Kerry again in 2008 me being one of those. I like so many others worked for the campaign and met alot of people that are ready to do it again if nessasary. I myself was a Kerry supporter from day one but there were alot of ABB voters in the begining but one thing I learned as it got closer and closer to Nov.2 alot of those ABB voters got to know Kerry and met him at rallies and learned what he was really about and there are many of those ABB voters that are faithful Kerry supporters now. There are already several Kerry blogs up and running and they are going full steam. There is a independents for Kerry and the one that Dick Bell started (he took care of the blog at the K/E campaign website) and there are still alot of people I have met here at DU that are strong Kerry supporters and have said they will do it again. So to say that democrats won't forgive a losing canidate is wrong. And regardless of what the final outcome of this election is Kerry ran a very strong campaign, He received the second highest number of votes than any other presidential canidate, he come an ace of beating an incumbent president when there was a war going on which is almost unheard of because most war time president's win by double digit numbers with no prblem that was not the case here, the man was treated lousy by the media and didn't get much air time at least not like Bush and he still managed to come out barely losing if he really did lose, he had every dirty trick in the book throwed at him and he still managed a stong finish which I might add if he was to run again they would have to come up with something new because all of this is old news now especially the swifty liars. The swifty liars might of had impact the first time because they wasn't countered quick enough but Americans already know the truth about these guys now it wont have that kind of a impact again. Yes there were some mistakes made but as they say you learn from your mistakes and Kerry would have a stronger campaign next time than what he did this one. I do feel he would pick a totally different running mate. I wanted him to pick Clark this time but he didn't. I liked Edwards but I just always felt Clark to be a better choice. But anyway if he runs again I'm telling you he will have enough supporters behind him that he would have a excellent chance of winning the primariers again. I'm not saying he would be he would have as good a shot next time as he did this time. Also it will depend on what he does in the Senate to because if he has a strong performance in the senate it will up his chances that much more. So I wouldn't count Kerry out of anything.

[imenja]

38. My experience with Kerry was similar to yours

I began as a Dean supporter, even voted for him in the FL primary despite the fact he'd already dropped out. I started to volunteer for Kerry as an ABB. Over time, I came to like Kerry more. The first debate was a major turning point for me. I was already volunteering before then, but I became a much stronger supporter after that debate.
I think Kerry ran an okay campaign, but not an especially good one. It was a weak campaign earlier on, as his failure to respond to the Swift boat stuff in August demonstrated. And now we learn he had many millions ($15 mil? I forget exactly how much) in the bank at that time. He should have spent it to counter the swift boat charges.
The campaign became much stronger when the Clinton crowd came aboard. Obviously it wasn't good enough though. I want a new candidate in 2008. I won't support Kerry in the primary. But if he should become the nominee--which I very much doubt--I will support him in the general election.

[LittleClarkie]

43. Gore had 8 million in the end

Donna Brazille bringing that up at the end was rather disingenuous.

I don't pretend to know that much about campaign finance. Just what I've picked up here. Part of that money has been pledged to the 2006 candidates.

[Merlot]

9. "reliable source?"

[Stand and Fight]

10. What?

Where did you hear that? Could you PM me with a link or explanation since I am about to go to bed? It is already 12:20am here.

[imenja]

17. sorry

don't have a messenger program on my computer right now. Read my other post.

[Stand and Fight]

29. sigh...

You don't need a messenger program.... Use the private message option on here.

[RevCheesehead]

11. You have got to be kidding me!

That makes absolutely NO sense at all!

Are you sure you weren't just fed some disinformation?

[imenja]

15. read above

decide if you believe the source or not. All I know is what Andy told me. I claim no first hand knowledge-, well except for one lawyer with the campaign who called me and told me they were not pursuing any allegations of voting incidents in Fla. He didn't tell me to destroy the info though.

[angrydemocrat]

19. I'm Like You That Make's Asolutely No Sense At All!

Who is this reliable source? I would have to see some proof to believe that.

[genieroze]

24. Well you know what?

This isn't about Kerry anymore, it's about voter fraud and if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. People need to go down for this because a crime has been committed against the American people. If we don't do something about this now we won't have a democracy anymore. You can tell your source that. I'm not going to fight this again in 2008 if that's what Kerry is thinking. There are already groups trying to get rid of the 22nd amendment. He had better think about fighting these people now.

[proudtobeadem]

31. I don't believe it. Until I hear it from the horse's mouth it's hearsay.

[texpatriot2004]

21. How do I know you are a reliable source?

What you say makes no sense. And your timing is very interesting. Why did the KE campaign join the Ohio lawsuit today then? It seems much more likely to me that disinformation would be disseminated by people willing to spread rumors. I am with the Rev here, that doesn't make any sense. Plus, like the Rev said we don't know what kind of Rovian tricks we are up against. Think smart people, think devious and be on guard for those who seem to be with you. The enemy would like for you to turn against your own.

[imenja]

25. you don't

read the post and judge for yourself. I make no claims for accuracy. I'm only repeating what I was told.
It does, however, make sense if you consider that Kerry is looking after what he perceives as his long term political interests, like Nixon in 1960.

[Helga Scow Stern]

22. I just watched it again. He's telling us in no uncertain terms...

He is telling us in no uncertain terms to get ready to fight. He is saying, no matter what, we are going to fight for everything it is worth.

[Blue_In_AK]

26. Agreed

I just watched that video again myself, and I agree 100 percent. It makes much more sense now. It's completely inconceivable to me that they would want to destroy any complaints. I don't believe it.

[texpatriot2004]

28. I am so glad. I don't believe it either. That's why he said,

..."this is not a time to retreat or give in to extremists this is a time to stand firm...and together we will make history..."

[angrydemocrat]

36. Which Video are you watching?

The link at the top of the page I can't get to work.

[texpatriot2004]

42. Try this link

http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/everychild.php

[symbolman]

30. I really cannot believe all the

nutty things I'm hearing here about Kerry and BBV..

seriously, what the hell are these people saying?

Doesn't anyone see through what appears to be paranoid behaviour and grandstanding for ego?

Oh, and he knows the guy who KNEW the buildings were coming down on 911 - called him FROM JAIL..

I couldn't even call MY WIFE from jail when I got thrown in by a right wing judge..

someone better either cut back or increase their medication :)

[RaulVB]

32. Well said! (n/t)

[angrydemocrat]

39. Which video?

I can't get the link at the top of the page to work.

[New Earth]

40. just go to johnkerry.com

and click on where it says 'sign our child healtcare bill.....play video'

and you can watch the video there.

[imenja]

33. what's that about 9/11?

Can you explain please?

[LittleClarkie]

44. Makes me wonder about Bev and BBV

These aren't the first comments I've seen about them. Is there a past history with these folks.

Andy said he knew someone who knew about 9/11?

They wouldn't be jealous that the emphasis isn't on them anymore, would they?

It sure doesn't make sense to help in Ohio, and hinder in Florida. Jeb Country, that is.

And if Kerry's dismantled in Florida, then why are there lawyers there, regardless of whether or not they're chucking paper. Maybe the main campaign dismantled.

This does not compute.

Bedtime is in order.

[Patsy Stone]

37. kick

[Patsy Stone]

41. So many messages, so little time

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x92583

Another DU thread from tonight on the vid..

[zann725]

45. I just went to "johnkerry.com" website, and watched "speeches"...

and interviews there of he and Teresa. The audience energy & support, and the size of crowds he drew was amazing then, but even MORE amazing now. Like everyone on the threads has said, I miss hearing his voice and seeing him daily on TV.

Now I don't feel so depressed. Might be a good thing to try for others feeling down about election results, and wanting to visualize success.

Plus a quote from Bruce Springsteen to the audience, as he introduced Kerry at a rally: "The America we hold in our hearts is waiting..."

Hold that thought, and visualize 'President Kerry' NOW!!

[myschkin]

46. psychology

He seemed to be a bit "down", but also determined. Difficult, to read out of this, what he wants... But I think he will fight if it's possible.