Is there any strong evidence of irregularities or fraud

[politicasista]

DUH! All this information coming out of late seems really interesting, but is there any real evidence of fraud? The truth needs to be revealed. Bush cheated period.

[New Earth]

1. yes it's getting frustrating

people here are working hard to get info, and so far it all seems relevant and supports the fact there was fraud in this election.

but it's so frustrating that we don't have someone to rely on to confirm and investigate the information. that's usually the media's job, which they aren't doing, as we all know.

[asjr]

9. I can remember the time when a reporter would have

busted his butt to get something like this. But that was The Daily Planet!

[reality_bites]

26. Oh, yea.

Kick it baby

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. I'd say the poll tapes meant for the shredder at Volusia

county are pretty strong, may even be a smoking gun.

Now will they be admited in court?

What you have to be kidding me....

[mbee]

3. The fact that Nader, Cobb, lawyers and organizations, activists, etc.

are out there examining everything they can leads me to believe there is something to be found. I just depends if the criminals were able to commit the perfect crime.

[IAMREALITY]

4. Wow, Great Question. Surprised No One Else Asked It

Oh, wait, it's all coming back to me now. Yeahhhh It's coming back. I think I'm recalling something... Yup, I remember now. IT'S BEEN ASKED A ZILLION TIMES!!!

(ok ok so I'm in a wiseass mood today)

[floridadem30]

5. I believe 1 vote not being counted is a violation of all of our rights and

demands an investigation. Local papers have been printing letters to the editors from both sides. I have been writing congress and my local officials but nothing is happening so now I am writing the major contributors to the RNC and demanding they help us. It is worth a shot.

[leftyandproud]

6. Ireegularities and glitches...yes, fraud, NO.

[The Flaming Red Head]

7. Did you read this aritcle?

If you did sorry.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1114-02.htm

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[IAMREALITY]

10. Nahhhhh, Doesn't mean that at all... Nahhhhhh

Yeah, screw 1:250,00,000 odds, screw 1 in a thousand odds, screw the 1 in a millions possibilities that all the anomalies and errors made favor the shrub... Fuck all the voter supression that affected tons of Dem voters...

Nahhhhh, nothin strange here, just 1 in a billion odds that everything went fair. I'll buy that. You're absolutely right. Hey, overcoming one in a billion odds ain't so tough. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. Whew.... now I can get back to my life instead of fighting for the cause. Hey, after all, they were just anomalies and errors made, thank god there wasn't any foul play. Thank you Fear Itself, Thank you for setting me straight.

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[IAMREALITY]

13. Yeah, You're Right Fear Itself

Yeah, screw 1:250,00,000 odds, screw 1 in a thousand odds, screw the 1 in a millions possibilities that all the anomalies and errors made favor the shrub... Fuck all the voter supression that affected tons of Dem voters...

Nahhhhh, nothin strange here, just 1 in a billion odds that everything went fair. I'll buy that. You're absolutely right. Hey, overcoming one in a billion odds ain't so tough. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. Whew.... now I can get back to my life instead of fighting for the cause. Hey, after all, they were just anomalies and errors made, thank god there wasn't any foul play. Thank you Fear Itself, Thank you for setting me straight.

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[IAMREALITY]

17. Yes Fear Itself, Thank you so much. I am Happy Again!

Thank you Fear, I am Happy Now. Screw 1:250,00,000 odds, screw 1 in a thousand odds, screw the 1 in a millions possibilities that all the anomalies and errors made favor the shrub... Fuck all the voter supression that affected tons of Dem voters...

Nahhhhh, nothin strange here, just 1 in a billion odds that everything went fair. I'll buy that. You're absolutely right. Hey, overcoming one in a billion odds ain't so tough. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. Whew.... now I can get back to my life instead of fighting for the cause. Hey, after all, they were just anomalies and errors made, thank god there wasn't any foul play. Thank you Fear Itself, Thank you for setting me straight.

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[pointsoflight]

21. We need to do audits to see if there's evidence.

Since you want evidence, I assume your supportive of audits, then, right?

You don't need proof to start an investigation. You only need a reasonable suspicion, and we clearly have that.

[Wordie]

22. I've thought of something the Berkley study may have left out...sorry.

I sorta hate to post it, since I was excited about the implications of the study. But, here it is: the study may have overlooked one important factor, and that is that the more rural people in FL, and ones who have a long familiy history in the state, absolutely DESPISE northerners, for the most part. And, I'm afraid that might explain the difference between the 2000 vote and the 2004 vote. Al Gore was a southerner, and as such would have been a palatable candidate to northener-hating Floridians. And Clinton before him would have had the same advantage there. Kerry, unfortunately, may have been painted as the devil incarnate by those Floridians who are so suspicious of northerners. I haven't reviewed all the data that the Berkley study used (I am experiencing information overload), and quite frankly, I would rather be wrong about this, but it might be what explains the anomalies.

That said, I STILL support audits and investigations, because its clear that Bev has found some strange stuff. AND I REALLY want a lawsuit filed to challenge those counties who used e-voting without a papertrail, because that has implications for our entire democracy, and needs to be stopped NOW.

[99Pancakes]

23. You rock!

Does it smell like a Re-poop here?

[lynx444]

15. it just does not make sense

in my opinion every vote should count. there should be no such thing as 'spoilage' votes. it's just disgusting that millions of votes are just throw away for one reason or another. for one, if they were thrown away because of a hanging chad.. pull the damn chad out of the freakin card. it's not that hard! second, if somebody casted a vote in the wrong precinct why can't that ballot be sent to the proper precinct? i mean this is the age of technology, we do have the ability to transfer information instanteously. is it not possible to mail the ballot that was casted in the wrong precinct to the correct one?

and talk about using your head, take a bite out of this information. i recently talked to my mom who lives in PA (i'm at college in WV) and she told me that when she went to vote she had to go through 6 different people before she got her ballot (the county that she was in used levers) and i'll be damned not a single one of those 6 people asked for any form of identification. NOT EVEN HER VOTERS CARD. she said that they just checked to see if she was in the log books and then allowed her to vote.

here's some more info for you. my mom also informed me that the person she is employed by has a son who used to live in PA and was registered in PA but last year moved to NJ. my mom found out that her employer asked the poll worker if his son was still registered in that county and lo and behold he was. isn't the county elections office supposed to transfer the son's information to NJ and not have any records in PA? since they did not check for identification, the employer's son could have voted in both NJ and PA. go figure. use your head to figure that one out.

[Joe Chi Minh]

20. Sure, statistics are so flaky,

aren't they, Fearful One... Those actuaries are such emotional types! That's why there's a joke about them. Actuaries are guys who found accountancy too exciting... Calm down, statisticians! Calm down!

[Oak2004]

25. And they're so unreliable

It's a shame all of modern science is built upon them.

[The Flaming Red Head]

12. Don't ever calm down. Let's all vow to stay angry!

[GetTheRightVote]

14. Stay angry, stay firm, but act for positive change with it

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[99Pancakes]

24. "Fear" is

.......hmmmmmmm......smells funny in here. Re-poop-de-boop.